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If you take stuff like that seriously then frankly that's an issue for itself, all I am doing is encouraging you to look at the things from above. the question vpn or not is not existant. delay is delay, no matter if it's 'natural' or forced. you're either against delay which means you refuse to work with heavy delayers (no matter what causes that delay) or you hold the position that delay is no problem in general because skill and delay are two separate things. those two attitudes are consequent because they are logical, meanwhile the definition of hypocrisy is to accept natural delayers while judging vpners for ruining spar. delay is delay and delay is a problem, for the quality of a spar it doesn't matter under which circumstances the delay occurs. everybody who collaborates with delayers instead of clearly opposing them makes a contribution to the downfall of quality spar, and it's very entertaining that often those are the same people who then complain about Graal getting worse |
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The Eternal
Join Date: Apr 2017
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And I'd also argue on if delay itself really ruins a spar, I feel truly it is more the misunderstood nature of delay ruins it. While people may say it makes fighting unfair, Those who say that usually don't understand what they are doing actually or understand how to beat a delayed properly, For instance if I didn't delay, and had knowledge on how delay works like I do now. I could easily kill 2 Delayers at bare minimum just because I'd understand the situation,But those who think that Delayers actually can see themselves get hit ..well not so much. Infact in reality the more a delayed person delays, The easier they are to kill.Take drew for example delayed way more than I even do now, If not 3X and a bit more. All you'd have to do is simply do one thing. Just avoid getting close to his character and attack way ahead where he is going. for instance if you did a C style infront of him and he does it back, you could go up when he goes down and hit sword a bit more than run when he goes back up and you'd get him every time. That's why I'd argue it isn't the delay itself being the problem for spars, It's more the misunderstood nature and lack of understanding how to fight it. That's why those who seek out to learn how to fight it end up being successful on bringing down delayers. |
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Join Date: Feb 2016
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The moment you are busy figuring out the exact hitpoint of your opponent, you don't have the chance to spar the way you'd like to spar, as simple as that. For the last time, it doesn't matter that 'its not their fault' and 'they like to spar'. if you want to protect spar, you have to oppose those people instead of saying 'ah well yes delay is sort of negative but I like challenges of that nature'. Delay is NOT a challenge, it is a PROBLEM. and of course everybody needs to learn how to fight delayers, but that does NOT mean delay is some sort of spar strategy or technique. you are doing appeasment by calling a problem a challenge which puts you on one level with the people who glorify hackers because 'at least they are entertaining' and again, that goes @ all other players too, most of them simply already are stuck in their mental jail for so long that even I cannot save them |
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The Eternal
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: York Town
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I also really don't understand your concept of opposing them, Like if they enjoy sparring, What else do you expect them to do? They obviously would spar. With or without anyone's liking, Plus in graal now there is equally or even possibly more delayers than there is actual non delayers. Plus I don't think you fully understand what I mean by delayers being a challenge, There is people who spar for their spar score, and there is people who spar to become better at beating people regardless of the situation. I've had people come and ask to spar me despite my delay with them ususally fully aware of my delay. People who aim to improve aim for challenges that they aren't used to, personally I'd love to spar anyone, Even speed hackers, I'd even love to spar 2 people at the same time if it was possible.( Not including those fun glitches that allow 3 people in a spar since they both don't aim for me sadly). Regardless though, You can't just "Oppose" and ignore delayers, they will be their regardless, Infact if anything you'd just drive our non delayers because there is so many delayers anymore that they'd probably stay because spar is something they enjoy, and people still would go to them to spar anyway, natural delay or not |
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