Posted by 4-Lom

What if he's at the embassy on business using their Wifi?
Clearly some one hasn't traveled abroad

Why are you playing graal in an embassy...? Why would you play graal while traveling?  

I think the excuse of "there should be a ban if you have a different flag", is rather BS.

There are people who travel outside of their mainland and still want to play graal, since it's a mobile game and all.

But rather, I think it should instate a ban for the amount of time between flag switches. Like instantly jumping from the US to EU within a period of time.  

Posted by Yami

But rather, I think it should instate a ban for the amount of time between flag switches. Like instantly jumping from the US to EU within a period of time.

Even that wouldn't work. Puerto rican's on data use American cell towers, same with Germans using cell towers from Spain (not certain about Germany/Spain)

Who cares if people use VPNs, as long as they aren't doing so when participating in the competitive aspects of the game. People such as Jimbo and Memo repeatedly get away with it-unpunished. It's bs  

Posted by Thallen

I like how the guy who literally cheats to make himself delay for up to 5 seconds while living in Ohio ("I don't get service") is trying to police the game all over the forums

He was one of the best sparrers from the past, might I add

For one, I cannot control my delay, I can't reduce it or anything and I've legitimately tried everything on my routers settings, The county I live in ohio being Licking county gets really crap service for anything, I've also made numerous and dozens of videos proving i have no VPN app on my device and go in a spar seconds later to prove I still delay, and also my delay is only by 1.25 seconds, Not 5 seconds. If you want me to make another video for either one of these things then I'll do so once again.

Don't get mind blown by the simple fact there is dozens and possibly hundreds more factors to what causes delay, for instance how long your internet cables are, how good is your router, does your area get good service, how old is your satellite, type of wires for satellite (Wires tied around like a circle for instance genuinely are slower then flat straight wires even if it is only by a bit), also condition of cellular towers around you, how old is your device?. How well built is your device to recieve a signal? How well can your service provider ( For data or wifi ) how well can they provide service for your area? How good even is your service providers around you? What is your data plan or wifi plan? Dial up? The kind of router you have,

To be honest, anyone who automatically thinks any delay is VPN or forced somehow, without legitimate evidence like they constantly get a different flag every other hour or so on is just a sign that shows how broken the logic is with people who instantly accuse a random delayer or lagger they don't know anything about of VPNing , only because of country flag, because somehow your country means everything not the billion other things that could cause such.

Posted by Yami

I think the excuse of "there should be a ban if you have a different flag", is rather BS.

There are people who travel outside of their mainland and still want to play graal, since it's a mobile game and all.

But rather, I think it should instate a ban for the amount of time between flag switches. Like instantly jumping from the US to EU within a period of time.

That's what I was suggesting lol

Posted by McCullough

Let's see here:

You delay, yet you still spar. I think the "logical" thing to do is to quit sparring and ruining spar for everyone else who doesn't delay.

I enjoy sparring, that's why I do it. Plus it's like Alexx said, now anymore non-delayers are the minority  

VPN to the same country still will give you a delay advantage ...  

Posted by Saber Alumba

VPN to the same country still will give you a delay advantage ...

Kinda , I'm actually not 100% sure if someone was to VPN to their own country if it would cause a noticeable delay. But I think I understand how you see that and I kinda would agree . But I think it would heavily depend on your location, and the location of the Virtual private networks own virtual location. Like for instance if you lived in maybe Rhode Island and you set a VPN to maybe Oregan, So going to one side of the country to the other side and then to the graal server, I imagine that could potentially create a bigger delay, So I have to agree with you honestly. But if a VPN's virtual location is like literally within 2-3 states or in your state, I honestly don't think it would create a significant delay unless that VPN is altered or tethered with to purposely increase ping.

But I have to agree with you really, which kinda could scrap the idea I had for people who travel between countries and it being reported to be unrealistic in how fast it was. But to be honest as well I generally don't think many if not probably only a select few in graal currently probably would even know how to tether or alter or create your own VPN and adjust it. Not even I do and I was the head of the CTA team at my school for 3 years and top assistant for a computer repair company for 2, although I guess it can be justified that I actually never worked any VPN tool or system, Closest thing being is a web proxy to bypass school filters, Being Whoer.

But this kind of does show my idea was somewhat flawed because your right that could be done, So instead we would need to think of a new better system to make a Anti-VPN work  

VPNers are not a thread. Graal will be a better place when players, especially those who pretend to be interested into making the game better, stop collaborating with massive delayers, for the quality of a spar it doesn't matter that 'it's not their fault'  

The reason vpn verses delay is due to the fact that your signal / data gets sent somewhere else before the server this creating a slight time delay, so if you con to the same country it will still add some delay depending on where the vpn server is in relation to your location  

Posted by Saber Alumba

The reason vpn verses delay is due to the fact that your signal / data gets sent somewhere else before the server this creating a slight time delay, so if you con to the same country it will still add some delay depending on where the vpn server is in relation to your location

I know, Like I said in my last post. But I feel the virtual location and your location have to be a big role in how big the causes delay is. As well if it is a custom setting VPN  

What if brazillian players vpn to a different country and will finally stop lagging  

Posted by Weeno

What if brazillian players vpn to a different country and will finally stop lagging

Not...exactly how that works...  

Posted by Yami

I think the excuse of "there should be a ban if you have a different flag", is rather BS.

Then you see people all like...
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/07/06/16/isis-flag.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

I suggest ignoring it and just beating the person.

there will never be a fix, you can vpn around a ban as well.

Posted by Rusix

Kinda , I'm actually not 100% sure if someone was to VPN to their own country if it would cause a noticeable delay. But I think I understand how you see that and I kinda would agree . But I think it would heavily depend on your location, and the location of the Virtual private networks own virtual location. Like for instance if you lived in maybe Rhode Island and you set a VPN to maybe Oregan, So going to one side of the country to the other side and then to the graal server, I imagine that could potentially create a bigger delay, So I have to agree with you honestly. But if a VPN's virtual location is like literally within 2-3 states or in your state, I honestly don't think it would create a significant delay unless that VPN is altered or tethered with to purposely increase ping.

But I have to agree with you really, which kinda could scrap the idea I had for people who travel between countries and it being reported to be unrealistic in how fast it was. But to be honest as well I generally don't think many if not probably only a select few in graal currently probably would even know how to tether or alter or create your own VPN and adjust it. Not even I do and I was the head of the CTA team at my school for 3 years and top assistant for a computer repair company for 2, although I guess it can be justified that I actually never worked any VPN tool or system, Closest thing being is a web proxy to bypass school filters, Being Whoer.

But this kind of does show my idea was somewhat flawed because your right that could be done, So instead we would need to think of a new better system to make a Anti-VPN work

1) it does not have any noticeable effect on delay
2) thats usually the purpose of vpning while sparring
3) it will never work there isn't any way of pulling it off  

Posted by Red

I suggest ignoring it and just beating the person.

there will never be a fix, you can vpn around a ban as well.





1) it does not have any noticeable effect on delay
2) thats usually the purpose of vpning while sparring
3) it will never work there isn't any way of pulling it off

I assume you haven't played some player world games? Many have a good working Anti VPN system, As well as anti hacking (Zone I believe has one). But why Classic doesn't is beyond me.  

Build a wall between you and your accusers.Problem solved.