Posted by lord greg

Sleep walking is not a choice. Getting drunk and driving a truck and racing a train is a choice.

How many over 18s do u know who dont drink?drinking is basiclaly no longer a choice  

Regardless of whether or not it was his fault, show some bloody respect. At the end of the day, a death is a death and respect should be shown regardless of the circumstances.

Posted by Blueh

The insensitivity of our generation is really reflecting here. How would you feel if you died by some unfortunate circumstance and someone who doesn't even know you, thinks they have the right to say you deserve no pity for your death? No respect for humanity at all, regardless of who it may be, you should always be courteous to those who are no longer at all.

Absolutely this. The comments that have been made about this man are upsetting and I don't see how they can be justified. It's one thing having this kind of outlook on the situation, but voicing it?
"If you've got nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all".  

Posted by Hadzz

How many over 18s do u know who dont drink?drinking is basiclaly no longer a choice

Drinking is not a problem. Too much is where it becomes a problem. He showed no consideration to others around him and took a stupid risk that ended his lives and those of his friends. But he also endangered people on the train, that could have been an even worse accident than it was.  

Posted by Hadzz

Why are u such an insentitive b***** its nit like he was aware if the dangers of what he was about to face if a sleep walker acidentaly kills himself does that make him an idiot

It was his dumbass decision to get drunk and then, not only drive intoxicated, but race a train.

Posted by Hadzz

How many over 18s do u know who dont drink?drinking is basiclaly no longer a choice

Sure, but again, drinking and then driving, and then racing a train is 100% a choice, and an idiotic one at that.

I can't even take you seriously with the quality of your posts.  

Posted by Talon

It was his dumbass decision to get drunk and then, not only drive intoxicated, but race a train.



Sure, but again, drinking and then driving, and then racing a train is 100% a choice, and an idiotic one at that.

I can't even take you seriously with the quality of your posts.

A bad decision does not warrant disrespectful posts regarding his death.  

Posted by lord greg

Sleep walking is not a choice. Getting drunk and driving a truck and racing a train is a choice.

It's a choice but not always an easy one to make.  

All I get is that it's unfortunate from a stupid choice. The fact that matter is that he's dead and if you look at this thread, you should respect the guy + the two others. It's not like the guy is Hitler(which is laughable @ Albus). The reason why these three died is DUI. It's doesn't matter if they died from a train because they may(no guarantee) die in any accident regardless because the dude is in DUI anyways. It's just unfortunate. RIP.  

It was stupid for him to race a train, while drunk...
But that's pretty sad.  

Posted by Emera

A bad decision does not warrant disrespectful posts regarding his death.

I'm not regarding his death, I'm regarding the deaths he caused and the grievances of the families he affected because of his bad decision.  

Posted by Hadzz

its nit like he was aware if the dangers

oh my god

Posted by Emera

A bad decision does not warrant disrespectful posts regarding his death.

What makes him so inherently deserving of our respect? The fact that he died?  

Posted by Talon

I twisted no one's words at all. Not sure what you're referring to.



It's heavily implied in the context. Why else would anyone be driving his truck, considering they were all intoxicated in the first place?



Do you know what an analogy is? I wasn't comparing the two cases directly. Look back to my post and actually read it, perhaps you missed the "in our case" that indicated that I shifted the subject. I was using Vlad, Hitler and Stalin as completely different cases in response to Blueh's claim that all humans that have passed away should be paid respects, no matter their acts in life.



Third-degree murder.



Then why didn't he? Irresponsibility and lack of judgment due to the alcohol, in which the blame ultimately lies with him.



It was his truck. Either he was driving them home and being an idiot, or he wasn't driving the truck - and no one else would be driving it either, considering they were all intoxicated.

Now it becomes so easy I can list off your crappy arguments.

1) you twisted most of it into a situation to suit your accusations, had you looked at the OP you would have noticed that it easnt confirmed whether they were intoxicated.

2) how is it entirely his decision to drive himself? One of his friends could have offered to drive and ended up doing that. And they could easily be driving it when intoxicated, when your drunk your decisions get screwed up to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if he even let some random guy drive them.

Posted by Talon

It was his dumbass decision to get drunk and then, not only drive intoxicated, but race a train.



Sure, but again, drinking and then driving, and then racing a train is 100% a choice, and an idiotic one at that.

You know what then, the next time your drunk (and judging from your personality, I wouldn't expect anything under decently often), get a couple of your best friends drunk too, let you drive home with them in it, then I'll let you choose between waiting for a train or racing it. Then I'll come back to this forum, go to the thread depicting your death, and call you an imbecile for choosing such and that you shouldn't be remembered as a responsible or decent person.

Tell me, even from that standpoint, would you rather you were remembered as an imbecile who raced a train, or as a decent person with good opinions and tons of friends?

Posted by Talon

I'm not regarding his death, I'm regarding the deaths he caused and the grievances of the families he affected because of his bad decision.

See, your taking sides here. You want me to play sides too? Ok, they made the dumbass decision of getting in the truck with him. From your logic, they CHOSE to enter the car with him, making it THEIR faults.  

Posted by Infernus Lapse

1) you twisted most of it into a situation to suit your accusations, had you looked at the OP you would have noticed that it easnt confirmed whether they were intoxicated.

I haven't even quoted the OP, nor did I quote the article. You're making me believe that you're intoxicated as well. Also, the word you're looking for is bias. The more you know, right?

Posted by Infernus Lapse

2) how is it entirely his decision to drive himself? One of his friends could have offered to drive and ended up doing that. And they could easily be driving it when intoxicated, when your drunk your decisions get screwed up to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if he even let some random guy drive them.

All right, for argument's sake, let's assume that the people in the car were not intoxicated at all, and that the police's autopsy is incorrect (lol), and that for some reason "Yoteslaya" deemed it okay for someone else to drive his truck (lol) while he was probably perfectly capable of doing so himself, and that if he wasn't driving his truck - for whatever outlandish reason - that he didn't interfere with his friend attempting to race a train and didn't say a single thing. Where's the logic here? "I'm sober despite the police's autopsies and I feel like it's okay letting you drive my truck and I won't say a single thing or try to change the direction of the truck before my friend - FOR WHATEVER REASON - decided to race a train!"

Even if they weren't intoxicated, it's all the more showing that their judgment was not impaired in the slightest, and they were okay with the decision to outrun the train.

Posted by Infernus Lapse

You know what then, the next time your drunk (and judging from your personality, I wouldn't expect anything under decently often), get a couple of your best friends drunk too, let you drive home with them in it, then I'll let you choose between waiting for a train or racing it. Then I'll come back to this forum, go to the thread depicting your death, and call you an imbecile for choosing such and that you shouldn't be remembered as a responsible or decent person.

Anyone (that's relatively smart) who regularly drinks makes it a damn good point before drinking to not have him or herself, let alone allow someone else that's drunk, to drive them home. Do you know what a designated driver is? They're wonderful things and they prevent **** like this from happening.

Posted by Infernus Lapse

Tell me, even from that standpoint, would you rather you were remembered as an imbecile who raced a train, or as a decent person with good opinions and tons of friends?

I wouldn't give half of a rat's ass about what people think of me when I'm dead - do you know why? Because, like Blueh said, I'll be dead.

Posted by Infernus Lapse

See, your taking sides here. You want me to play sides too? Ok, they made the dumbass decision of getting in the truck with him. From your logic, they CHOSE to enter the car with him, making it THEIR faults.

The fault lies on Yoteslaya alone for making the decision to outrun the train - here's a nifty article: http://tribstar.com/local/x211290400...ash-identified

Note the driver: "Those killed were vehicle driver Brian J. Rickard, 30, and passenger Ryan Lee Cook, 24, both of Terre Haute, and passenger Ashlee Taylor Pugh, 20, of Dennison, Ill., according to a news release from the Vigo County Sheriff’s Department."

There you have it.

And work on your English.  

Posted by Infernus Lapse

You know what then, the next time your drunk (and judging from your personality, I wouldn't expect anything under decently often), get a couple of your best friends drunk too, let you drive home with them in it, then I'll let you choose between waiting for a train or racing it. Then I'll come back to this forum, go to the thread depicting your death, and call you an imbecile for choosing such and that you shouldn't be remembered as a responsible or decent person.

You are the only person dumb enough on this forum to suggest drink driving. Are you not aware it is both illegal and evidently extremely dangerous?

Posted by Infernus Lapse

Ok, they made the dumbass decision of getting in the truck with him. From your logic, they CHOSE to enter the car with him, making it THEIR faults.

"They chose to get in the truck with him, from your logic they chose to get in the car with him!"

You're embarrassing yourself over a rather sensitive matter. Quit while you're ahead.  

Nope