Deism

"The belief that God has created the universe but remains apart from it and permits his creation to administer itself through natural laws. Deism thus rejects the supernatural aspects of religion, such as belief in revelation in the Bible, and stresses the importance of ethical conduct."

Recently found out about this Deism which fits perfectly in what I believe in. Is there anyone who thinks this way as well? I honestly want to hear from your opinions especially for any devoted Christians or Catholics etc around here who really believe in what the Bible says.  

So they believe there's a God, but don't believe in a heaven/hell? They just think your life on Earth is your only life? I'm a Christian and I believe in the Bible, but I don't disagree with other religions. In fact, what pisses me off is that (in my religion) anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus died on the cross goes to Hell. So Jews would go to hell. It pisses me off because who am I to know which of the many religions is the correct one, if any. I'm only a Christian because I was raised that way. If I was raised Muslim, I'd be Muslim, and probably be that way for my entire life. I believe what the Bible says, but I don't necessarily disagree with anyone else's belief. Even the belief that there is no God.  

Posted by PigParty

So they believe there's a God, but don't believe in a heaven/hell? They just think your life on Earth is your only life? I'm a Christian and I believe in the Bible, but I don't disagree with other religions. In fact, what pisses me off is that (in my religion) anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus died on the cross goes to Hell. So Jews would go to hell. It pisses me off because who am I to know which of the many religions is the correct one, if any. I'm only a Christian because I was raised that way. If I was raised Muslim, I'd be Muslim, and probably be that way for my entire life. I believe what the Bible says, but I don't necessarily disagree with anyone else's belief. Even the belief that there is no God.

wow, your a lost soul  

Posted by DJ Meow

wow, your a lost soul

You're*  

In my world religions class when we studied Judaism we had a few speakers come in who followed the religion so obviously the first question was why they believed in a God when the holocaust happened to them and how a real God would not allow it blah blah blah

They gave a pretty neat lecture on how they and most of the others in the community followed this belief so they did not blame God for it and if not this exact belief still believed that since God created human with the ability of free will he still wasn't to blame because if he intervened it would go against free will and humanity coming together to stop this is much greater than God doing it

I think it's a pretty good thing to believe in, thanking God for giving life but not expecting God to be involved with life, would be nice if this was the common mindset between religious groups  

Posted by DJ Meow

Wow, you're a lost soul.

Needed some corrections.  

Posted by DJ Meow

wow, your a lost soul

Your profile pic is a DJ Pizza Cat. I'm not concerned for myself.

Posted by Colin

In my world religions class when we studied Judaism we had a few speakers come in who followed the religion so obviously the first question was why they believed in a God when the holocaust happened to them and how a real God would not allow it blah blah blah

They gave a pretty neat lecture on how they and most of the others in the community followed this belief so they did not blame God for it and if not this exact belief still believed that since God created human with the ability of free will he still wasn't to blame because if he intervened it would go against free will and humanity coming together to stop this is much greater than God doing it

I think it's a pretty good thing to believe in, thanking God for giving life but not expecting God to be involved with life, would be nice if this was the common mindset between religious groups

In many trying situations like that, Religious people/leaders say it's part of God's plan because often times, going through something that terrible ends up bringing you closer to others & your religion. 9/11 is a good example. It brings a lot of people together in the end and brings people closer to their religion. Or they often say it's a "test." I don't really think too much about why things happen. I don't expect anything from God, although, I do still hope and ask.

I saw a 60 Minutes story that was looking into religion with some Christian pastor I think. He said something I realy believed to be true. He said even if noting from religion is real, it's still a marvelous thing because it gives people hope, connects people to others so they have people to lean on, and it really just creates a great mindset for those who do believe in it. I hate when people get 'offended' because someone believes in a religion and they're atheist or believe something else. I think the mindset that religion creates in people alone is one of the most spectacular things in the world.  

major religions would be dead if indoctrination wasn't a thing. most we can hope for is that the folks are good people. mormons are ****ing ******ed but they are some of the nicest people i've ever met  

The idea that God controls our actions or whatever is really unsettling considering we've done some ****ed up things in the past.

This belief seems a lot easier to get behind.  

deism sounds pretty solid.
I am catholic but I like to venture into other thaughts sometimes.
Without a doubt tough there is something divine out there.

Posted by Colin

In my world religions class when we studied Judaism we had a few speakers come in who followed the religion so obviously the first question was why they believed in a God when the holocaust happened to them and how a real God would not allow it blah blah blah

They gave a pretty neat lecture on how they and most of the others in the community followed this belief so they did not blame God for it and if not this exact belief still believed that since God created human with the ability of free will he still wasn't to blame because if he intervened it would go against free will and humanity coming together to stop this is much greater than God doing it

I think it's a pretty good thing to believe in, thanking God for giving life but not expecting God to be involved with life, would be nice if this was the common mindset between religious groups

A common argument against religion is
" this thing happened and god didnt come to save me "
"if he was real he would have prevented world war 1&2 from happening"

Though the old testamet has a story regarding a jewish man who had very bad luck and lost all his fortune and became very ill and lost his family.
He stoped beleiving in god because he thaught if there was a god things like that would not happen.But then he is told by god that he can't interfere with everything and that our lives are up to us.  

Posted by 5hift

The idea that God controls our actions or whatever is really unsettling considering we've done some ****ed up things in the past.

This belief seems a lot easier to get behind.

Christianity doesn't say God controls your actions... I can't think of a religion that actually believes that at all.  

Posted by PigParty

Christianity doesn't say God controls your actions... I can't think of a religion that actually believes that at all.

I could've swore I heard that from somewhere.

Idek. I had a lot of mixed messages about Christianity growing up as a kid.  

Posted by 5hift

I could've swore I heard that from somewhere.

Idek. I had a lot of mixed messages about Christianity growing up as a kid.

Well we believe that he can, but he doesn't control our actions. We believe he can, and does, control certain aspects of the world, basically a miracle. We mostly think he controls fate (for example, a car wrecks but something happens just right so that the driver isn't killed). Somewhat hard to explain, but we know we all have free will. In fact, according to Christianity, the reason we have sin in the first place is because of free will. Deism seems a lot like most religions, just a little stricter I guess... Although, if you don't believe God interacts with our world, then (if you're Christian) you don't believe that Jesus came and died on the cross, which is the core belief behind Christianity. I personally don't think Deism is plausible. A God would have to interact somehow. Although, I think people who are unfamiliar with different religions think that God interacts a lot more than he probably does. We pray to God, but we never get a response. We usually never even know if we get what we ask for. If you believe in God, you attribute everything good that happened to you because of God. In a sense, God does almost nothing, yet also could possibly be doing everything. It's pretty difficult to put ideas into words when it comes to religion...  

Hi antago  

Posted by ReD s.

Hi antago

Legend says if you say his name 9 times you'll summon him from the depths of the local insane asylum.