Posted by TGG

It looks like the thread was originally created to accuse Auel of a recent action for which he has not been punished for yet.
All the talk of past events is only being thrown around as evidence that the accusation could be credible.

And I can assure you that it's just past. He hasn't been doing such activities for a long time, nor even thinking about acting upon them again.  

Once a hacker, always a hacker.  

Posted by Bryan*

Once a hacker, always a hacker.

Not true at all. Hacking isn't at all bad either. Its just the uneducated people automatically think the word hacking is bad. Not at all true, people can find exploits and vulnerabilities and then resolve them, for an example 0 day; they don't intend on doing malicious activity. They find exploits and then sell them on/ help the company fix it. And I wouldn't call warping players around a criminal activity that is in the hands of organized crime.  

One of his guild members spoke to me about this the other day, I'm not going to expose the player I'll just repeat what was said. Unfortunately I have no screenshots. So the player is a high rank in their military thing and he told me how Auel used it to impress new members so they'd want to stay. He also said that Auel used hacks to terrorise his enemies in roleplay I assume?! However he did also mention there's a team called The Kraken who is Auel's friends and they were hacking into other guilds and kicking the members of it. I don't think looking further into it would be a very bad idea...

Posted by Bengraal

Not true at all. Hacking isn't at all bad either. Its just the uneducated people automatically think the word hacking is bad. Not at all true, people can find exploits and vulnerabilities and then resolve them, for an example 0 day; they don't intend on doing malicious activity. They find exploits and then sell them on/ help the company fix it. And I wouldn't call warping players around a criminal activity that is in the hands of organized crime.

Black hat hackers are what everyone thinks a hacker is, they find information and sell it to other people, stuff like that. In a game hackers are more likely to be this however you can still get other hackers in this game. Grey hat hackers are black hat hackers only they get information and would sell it to the Admins so they can sort it they aren't normally there just to run on walls and terrorise people. White hat hackers are basically the kind grey hat hackers, I'm not sure if this is true but also Admins?? (I don't know if Admins hack to find hacks, but this is what I was told), They hack to help the game progress and so that we can fix all the current hacks, glitches and general bugs in the game.

https://www.howtogeek.com/157460/hac...and-gray-hats/

This webpage might be more helpful than I am and will probably be more exact, so check it out if you're still interested!!  

Posted by Rekkles

One of his guild members spoke to me about this the other day, I'm not going to expose the player I'll just repeat what was said. Unfortunately I have no screenshots. So the player is a high rank in their military thing and he told me how Auel used it to impress new members so they'd want to stay. He also said that Auel used hacks to terrorise his enemies in roleplay I assume?! However he did also mention there's a team called The Kraken who is Auel's friends and they were hacking into other guilds and kicking the members of it. I don't think looking further into it would be a very bad idea...



Black hat hackers are what everyone thinks a hacker is, they find information and sell it to other people, stuff like that. In a game hackers are more likely to be this however you can still get other hackers in this game. Grey hat hackers are black hat hackers only they get information and would sell it to the Admins so they can sort it they aren't normally there just to run on walls and terrorise people. White hat hackers are basically the kind grey hat hackers, I'm not sure if this is true but also Admins?? (I don't know if Admins hack to find hacks, but this is what I was told), They hack to help the game progress and so that we can fix all the current hacks, glitches and general bugs in the game.

https://www.howtogeek.com/157460/hac...and-gray-hats/

This webpage might be more helpful than I am and will probably be more exact, so check it out if you're still interested!!

for someone thats been bombing the city for a few days... I figured youd be more logical on the topic. Haha.

Auel is a really cool dude. He is a fellow new yorker. He is basically the founder of graal militaries. In militaries, the closest it goes to roleplay is in the wikia you used as your evidence.

I've known auel since I first joined the state fully in 2013.

I think this goes beyond auel. If this was some spar hacker, you guys wouldnt be in such a craze. A ton of these replies are just bashing militaries... Not the person at hand.

Trust me. Auel has served his time. He's a dedicated GFX artist who is still making graphics and paying the upload fee for them.

And as for what rekkles said, I plan on personally speaking to that person since I know who it is. He probably wanted to impress you or something. Lmao.

If you can get beyond having to have some type of authority and rules in graal militaries, you can have a great time. Theres tons of great people. And we dont just sit around and roleplay. We arent valikorlia.

A good hour or two in the guild would be hosting one of those cool formations in the city. The goal of that is to attract potential members. Not to dominate graal adolf-esque. After a rally, we usually teach the new recruits the different formations in a training. A little bit after that we might do a fun activity like sergeant says, box run, or fortress wars. Spar works as well. After that, you socialize.

But please. Understand that all of this is from 2013. Not 2017. Auel has gotten many bans for his actions. And he stopped.

Idk why you guys hate militaries the way you do. We dont bother you guys like you bother us and crash our recruitment. We're players like you trying to enjoy the game. Graal is an MMORPG if im not mistaken. We're all sort of playing a role in a way. None of us tower irl or do all the crazy stuff we do in graal.

We're members of a game together. An entire thread calling out one "hacker" (quotations because auel isnt a hacker) is immature. Even more immature when you account for the fact that Red came over to the train station yesterday and started berating all of us for being "losers."

If this was really about trying to make the game a safer, more fun place, it would have been about present proof and reasons to ban the suspect. It wouldnt have gotten derailed into 6 pages of "infiltrating" our discord from a FORMER state member (mac) who left after being demoted for inactivity.

More importantly, don't listen to what any of the "soldiers" of the state tell you. Listen what the top dawgs tell you. And as the general of the state, auel is just a cool dude with a bad past who wants to lead a well structured guild.

None of us in this forums have completely clean pasts or presents. For auel, a friend, his dirt is in the past. The distant past. (2013.)

Auel paid severe ban time already in 2013 for 2013 actions. He's changed. People can change. He wants to enjoy the game like you guys, without having threads made about crap he did 3 years ago.

I'll be the first to say that our community is flawed. Many of the supposed hackers just lie to try and seem like literal graal adolfs. Auel isn't one of those people. The state is based off of fullmetal alchemist, as you can tell from the uniforms and scheme.

This is the perfect time to close the thread. Unless some other proof comes up about auel (which it wont) theres no more reason to have this open for discussion. You cant ban somebody for stuff they did 3 years ago.  

Posted by Macbeth

>Doesn't read the thread.
>Assumes it is just one hacker.
>Can't make an argument so he goes to poking fun at someone's status.

This thread isn't simply pointed towards a singular person, but instead a group, which is known for game-breaking and anti-administrative activity.

Ps, here's a new link to their discord since the other expired <3
https://discord.gg/YZNSvdR

It's not everyone, and you out of all people should be aware of that. (Macbeth is an "Old Generation" military/State member) Old Generations of the State had these tactics front and center. And honestly, this new Era has it under lock and key because this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Game-breaking is a long shot, and we haven't been strictly anti-administrative in years.

Posted by Red

asked a few of his guilds members and they all seem unwilling to tell me what hes using to warp around, I'm assuming they all know he cheats and aren't willing to tell me why he does and what he's using to do it.





this seems really suspicious can we get a staff member to investigate this



all hacking is bad for the game, theres a reason it is bannable

They're quiet about it because the bulk of us aren't involved, you can't just implicate innocents. It's pretty well documented Auel has hacked in the past, it's even on the Wikia. But as Fessler said in a previous post he's changed, and I truly believe that.

Posted by Bengraal

And I can assure you that it's just past. He hasn't been doing such activities for a long time, nor even thinking about acting upon them again.

Exactly, past State generations have fallen for this exact reason. I highly doubt he'd put the new generation and everyone at risk by doing it again.  

Posted by Grizz

Exactly, past State generations have fallen for this exact reason. I highly doubt he'd put the new generation and everyone at risk by doing it again.

http://www.rottenchestnuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/lovejoy-think-of-the-children-16nov131.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

Posted by 4-Lom

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The military community calls different guilds "generations" or "eras". There's been plenty of State generations/eras, and this is just another one lmao.  

So very strange, I miss the old days where Colin deleted hate threads that just kept rambling about jibberish  

Doubt any of these military weebos can survive in real combat. A true mockery.  

Posted by Bryan*

Doubt any of these military weebos can survive in real combat. A true mockery.

They're 15~16 so...probably not?  

Posted by Bryan*

Doubt any of these military weebos can survive in real combat. A true mockery.

There actually has been people who have joined the military's in the community. But yeah, the bulk of us couldn't and just want to have fun.  

Posted by SolFessler

And as for what rekkles said, I plan on personally speaking to that person since I know who it is. He probably wanted to impress you or something. Lmao.

Message me who that person is please so that I can check if there's more than one person leaking information that you don't want to be spread.

Also he was telling me that quite a lot of your guild are hackers not to the point of Auel but they hack at a very high level.  

[QUOTE=Bryan*;788765]Doubt any of these military weebos can survive in real combat.

Well to be fair 99% of military people are 14-17 so yes thats a fair assumption considering the majority of our guilds are based off of tv shows or historical stuff like napoleon i also dont see how its a mockery.

That comment is wrong on so many levels lmao, theres actually also been a few state members and graal militants in general who have joined the army. If you want to talk about mockery, go do it on a call of duty forum. Its still a ******ed argument too. Not on the forum post written about a guild based off of an anime... Lmao.

But yeahh... Smart argument. Say theyre all obese 12 year olds in one argument... And then say they cant survive combat the next.

Dont worry tho my man you look incredibly trendy making fun of militaries

Posted by Rekkles

Message me who that person is please so that I can check if there's more than one person leaking information that you don't want to be spread.

Also he was telling me that quite a lot of your guild are hackers not to the point of Auel but they hack at a very high level.

Message me  

Posted by SolFessler

Well to be fair 99% of military people are 14-17 so yes thats a fair assumption considering the majority of our guilds are based off of tv shows or historical stuff like napoleon i also dont see how its a mockery.

That comment is wrong on so many levels lmao, theres actually also been a few state members and graal militants in general who have joined the army. If you want to talk about mockery, go do it on a call of duty forum. Its still a ******ed argument too. Not on the forum post written about a guild based off of an anime... Lmao.

But yeahh... Smart argument. Say theyre all obese 12 year olds in one argument... And then say they cant survive combat the next.

Dont worry tho my man you look incredibly trendy making fun of militaries



Message me

Posted by Bryan*

Doubt any of these military weebos can survive in real combat. A true mockery.

Take the L and walk away Bryan...