Posted by MattKan

I think that the Initiative is a good way for Classic iPhone to find good graphics admins, and plus it's fun for everybody in the guild. There's other competitions like Azrael's hat contest, too, and those are open to the public. If you want to participate why not try to join?

Plus, didn't Pimpsy get mad at you last time you tried to fight for him to get back in?

You have a few points that might be valid, but I'm not going to support you because you just insulted about ten of my friends.

Ooh now look theres definite favoritism within staff.  

Pimpsy. Consider the void. When me and XOR focus on a common goal and keep the past and drama behind us we can be quite effective. Our days of fighting are over  

Posted by Infernus Lapse

Ooh now look theres definite favoritism within staff.

How?  

I don't see why you can't have both public and Initiative specific contests? They could open up a building that could be stocked up with player submitted content for public contests and The Initative's graphics will be put where they usually are. The Initiative I like because it provides a safer system that can detect if members are stealing customs where as if everyone on Graal submitted customs it would be more difficult. The Initiative isn't really that private. I was just recruited without them even seeing my graphics. I left it awhile ago for personal reasons, but it's really not that private.  

Posted by Tyler

I don't see why you can't have both public and Initiative specific contests? They could open up a building that could be stocked up with player submitted content for public contests and The Initative's graphics will be put where they usually are. The Initiative I like because it provides a safer system that can detect if members are stealing customs where as if everyone on Graal submitted customs it would be more difficult. The Initiative isn't really that private. I was just recruited without them even seeing my graphics. I left it awhile ago for personal reasons, but it's really not that private.

That would be kinda cool... like the Initiative could host a contest for everybody not in the guild, and then the winners or any notable participants could be invited to join.  

Posted by MattKan

That would be kinda cool... like the Initiative could host a contest for everybody not in the guild, and then the winners or any notable participants could be invited to join.

Or have their art put in the mueseum.

The prize being able to join them wouldn't be a prize if they accept everyone so...  

Posted by Higbey

Or have their art put in the mueseum.

The prize being able to join them wouldn't be a prize if they accept everyone so...

Was more of the Initiative could benefit by this by finding new members.  

Judging from some of the talent in the actual initiative forums, it doesn't seem too hard to get in as long as you're respectful. Maybe you should work on that instead, Higbey.  

Posted by Pazx

Judging from some of the talent in the actual initiative forums, it doesn't seem too hard to get in as long as you're respectful. Maybe you should work on that instead, Higbey.

I'm not aiming on joining the initiative.  

This isn't a Staff Only ran guild - I run conceptualize. Also, being in charge of recruiting and ANYONE who gets in goes through me, I can definitely tell you some of your points are invalid. If a person sends me the (3) minimum graphics, including 1 hat, that aren't: Stolen or recolored, I recruit them. They then are able to participate in contests, and pretty much anyone can get in, and once you're in you can participate. There's really no need to hate against it, because we are actually VERY open to the community  

Posted by Higbey

I'm not aiming on joining the initiative.

Well, I don't mean to be rude, but it doesn't really make since for you to make this thread then... You're basically asking for it to be open to everybody... but why, if you don't want to get in?

I mean, I think you think you're helping a bunch of people by doing this, but if someone has an issue, let them handle it. I can tell that not many people have an issue with it because of the lack of threads like this.  

But what's the need for that when you could just be completely with the community? No guild.  

Posted by Higbey

But what's the need for that when you could just be completely with the community? No guild.

It's more of a great experience for its members rather than a giant community affair.  

Posted by MattKan

Well, I don't mean to be rude, but it doesn't really make since for you to make this thread then... You're basically asking for it to be open to everybody... but why, if you don't want to get in?

I mean, I think you think you're helping a bunch of people by doing this, but if someone has an issue, let them handle it. I can tell that not many people have an issue with it because of the lack of threads like this.

I'd like to partake in one or two contests, maybe post in the pixelate forum there and learn anything else I can learn.

I dont want to join any guild. I never wear a guild tag. I don't do guilds.  

The guild:
A) Helps other members improve instead of hundreds of people turning in items.
B) Just that, prevents hundreds of items from being turned in.
C)Allows us to manage and see if there is stolen artwork, trust me we've caught people doing it, with hundreds of submissions, it'd be impossible to manage that.

Come on, you can't say that 3 pieces of art is such a problem. Let's be rational.