Posted by Dusty

That hidden <chat was to lengthy> admin was probably me.

How do you not know for sure it was you or not?  

Posted by Dusty

That hidden <chat was to lengthy> admin was probably me.

You'd know if it was you or not because half of my guild came up top to Ctrl+L and laugh at her for once again trying to pull a fast one on us.

Even if it was you, prior incidents still stand.  

Posted by WMS

How do you not know for sure it was you or not?

I don't. Was just saying it may have been me since I was at Sartan's testing the script while special forces was there.  

This is a terrible idea, just because they were hired, doesn't mean they have to miss out in all the fun.  

I'm also pretty sure It's Dusty in that picture too. It was when he was working on adding that chat too long thing to try to prevent the chat blocking. If it was another admin trying to sabotage you as you claim, why would they try to type something in overhead chat that you can't see anyway?  

Posted by -Albus

I'm also pretty sure It's Dusty in that picture too. It was when he was working on adding that chat too long thing to try to prevent the chat blocking. If it was another admin trying to sabotage you as you claim, why would they try to type something in overhead chat that you can't see anyway?

You're asking me to assume intelligence out of an admin who has been reported doing numerous ill-advised things to benefit her guild in the past.  

Posted by Thallen

You're asking me to assume intelligence out of an admin who has been reported doing numerous ill-advised things to benefit her guild in the past.

It's funny that nobody actually reports these things to the people that matter though, they always seem to run to Facebook or the forums. If this sort of behavior was actually reported ([email protected] by the way) and was actually true, the person in question would have been removed a long time ago. Until this actually happens, I'm just going to assume its a bunch of people crying over losing some towers in game.  

Posted by -Albus

It's funny that nobody actually reports these things to the people that matter though, they always seem to run to Facebook or the forums. If this sort of behavior was actually reported ([email protected] by the way) and was actually true, the person in question would have been removed a long time ago. Until this actually happens, I'm just going to assume its a bunch of people crying over losing some towers in game.

Explain that to me. How would the issue be handled any differently had I sent you an email claiming that a staff member did exactly what I described in this thread? You would have claimed you were "looking into it," using what data? I'd like to know what you would have done other than tell me you'd "look into" something that has already happened and can otherwise not exactly be proven.

But, it should be able to be proven. Maybe you should consider:

• Tracking at what level and during what timestamp a staff uses whatever NPC, weapon, etc. is responsible for allowing them to go invisible
• Tracking when a staff member hits another player and/or fort flag when invisible and/or on an administrator account
• Tracking when a GP or admin accesses levels exclusive to guild forts at all
• Hiring staff who are willing to prioritize things in front of helping their guilds at forts
• Hiring staff who can spell the word "yesterday" and can be looked at seriously with expectations to handle the job with maturity

Those are just a few ideas off the top of my head, it didn't require any intense brainstorming. Has none of that ever crossed your mind? No offense, but isn't this elementary **** that should have been put in place long ago by any responsible administration? Or do you guys just take it in stride and trust every one of your admins with your heart and soul? Is what several people have reported in this thread not worthy of your attention?

Pretty ridiculous reply from you I've say. You're acting as if this is on us, as if we need to prove without some shadow of a doubt that this is happening when it's obvious to people who actually participate at towers that it is. It shouldn't be on us to prove, it should never happen. You should be tracking your own staff and handling it internally, not me. How would you like any of to prove what we've alleged in this thread? Should we all just run a screen recorder 24/7 with the assumption that we'll encounter garbage staff on iClassic?

So now that you've acknowledged this thread, what exactly will be done about it? I'll be realistic and safely assume nothing. At the very most, she'll be told to not do what is being alleged in this thread. If it ever happens again, you won't know. What was accomplished?

We didn't even lose the fort when this happened, BTW. Consider for a second that the numerous reports in this thread may actually have some weight to them, rather than just turning a blind eye.  

The issue would have been looked into first of all. I don't have all the time in the world to look through this thread and find out when and what happened so if some information was emailed, then it probably would have been looked into by now. When I am on my staff account I am actively working, not browsing graalians.

If anything was done, it can be proven because we keep extensive logs of what every staff member does. We do hire staff that prioritize work before play, you think we don't, which is why I've asked you to email about it. As for you complaining about someone making a typo, you really need to grow up and stop looking for reasons to hate someone. As soon as Stefan starts paying me in real money, I will quit my day job so I can start devoting 40 hours per week so I can read extensively monitor what ever staff member does, by until then I will just have to deal with it on a case by case basis as they are reported.

Once again, I'm not blaming this on you, I'm saying it was never brought to my attention until seeing this thread at work. If something does come of it or if nothing comes of it, you probably won't know either way, because I don't share what's going on internally with the staff team with everybody.  

Posted by -Albus

The issue would have been looked into first of all.

Posted by -Albus

If anything was done, it can be proven because we keep extensive logs of what every staff member does. We do hire staff that prioritize work before play, you think we don't, which is why I've asked you to email about it.

I don't know if I believe that, though. I've witnessed certain things that were earlier discussed in this thread happen. Others have posted here, too. If what you're saying is true then I think you would have already stumbled across some activity that looks pretty sketchy.

Posted by -Albus

As for you complaining about someone making a typo, you really need to grow up and stop looking for reasons to hate someone.

I don't "hate" anyone on a game, and I'm not the one that needs to grow up. The ones who go out of their way to cheat and give their friends an advantage and then pretend it never happened should be the ones to grow up, not me. It wasn't a personal attack, I was being serious.

Posted by -Albus

As soon as Stefan starts paying me in real money, I will quit my day job so I can start devoting 40 hours per week so I can read extensively monitor what ever staff member does, by until then I will just have to deal with it on a case by case basis as they are reported.

Well, exactly, that's the problem right there. I've mentioned it plenty of times, you don't exactly see the motivation in properly monitoring your staff team, so you don't. What reward is in it for you? It's understandable. Knowing that, don't you suppose that some members of your staff would be willing to take advantage of their position? It wouldn't be the first time in Graal history.

Posted by -Albus

Once again, I'm not blaming this on you, I'm saying it was never brought to my attention until seeing this thread at work. If something does come of it or if nothing comes of it, you probably won't know either way, because I don't share what's going on internally with the staff team with everybody.

Which is why I don't have any interest in emailing you, really. I've taken on the issue myself because that doesn't require that I need to trust in you or anyone else to get the job done. I'm sure the staff members who are known for abusing in the way that I've described in this thread have seen it, and I'm sure it makes them a little uncomfortable. Bringing this matter to the forum alone will likely make them reconsider doing things like that, because at least now people have somewhere to talk about it and know it's being seen, rather than just expect staff to "handle it."

If you feel like people have not brought the issue to your attention appropriately, then you're free to ignore it. It does suck that this happens though, and that's what this thread and suggestion is about.  

Posted by Thallen

I don't "hate" anyone on a game, and I'm not the one that needs to grow up. The ones who go out of their way to cheat and give their friends an advantage and then pretend it never happened should be the ones to grow up, not me. It wasn't a personal attack, I was being serious.

I don't care about anything else but this. And online dating staff members. It really makes me question how 'professional' that individual is.

Honestly, I think it would help of there was a chart listing staff members age...  

This has been going on for a long time, I saw it happen so many times when I used to sit on towers daily when I played.

Admins would suddenly appear when our guild went to attack "insert certain guild here" and drag or unstick us. They would suddenly disappear if there were hackers at our tower. Admins would warn us for harassing certain people yet do nothing when we would report.

Admins will always play favorites and it will never stop.