Posted by Ash Ketchum

Didn't I just say that PC graal is only there because of iOS? You're just helping me.

Also PC "olbies" do NOT, volneteer, well to help Classic at least. The people that you think are voleterring are part of the staff team. Some dev "Olbies" work for iClassic, but that's a different point. Unlike Secrets she hasn't moved on to any iServer (just yet)

Yup, you're just helping me prove a point that PC graal is dead without the iDevice. I'm not going to respect Secrets because she has did nothing to the iDevice community. She's just a manager of a dead server.

PC graal is EXSPENSIVE because of the wise variety of Graal server. You're only buying one server on the App Store, not 300 wasted space servers

Yeah so tell me smart guy, how much does the iOS staff make? How much do they get paid if they are not "voleterring"?  

Volunteering*

lol  

Posted by TheRookie

Yeah so tell me smart guy, how much does the iOS staff make? How much do they get paid if they are not "voleterring"?

Please look up the definition of volenteering.  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Please look up the definition of volenteering.

Why avoid the REAL questions I've asked, son?  

By the way, what are you two bickering about.

IOS>PC and Idagf

Pc is the past and iOS is the future.

Easy.  

Posted by TheRookie

Why avoid the REAL questions I've asked, son?

Because you obviously don't know what it means. So come back when you find out the definition ^_~  

Ash, he's gonna type a noob essay.

Watch.  

Posted by Bikerboy

Ash, he's gonna type a noob essay.

Watch.

Yeah, I'm waiting. You wanna battle while he types his crap?

I'm probably going to beat it with a few lines anyways, like I did with the last one  

Sure.

Wait, he's offline.  

Posted by 99%

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Apart from your other verbal filth.
The iServer admins only really need the remote control. PC Graal and iGraal are the same game and two different communities.

So get the f**k out, and grow the f**k up.
Don't bother trying to retaliate to this post, because I have no wish to argue with idiocy.

They use iClassic on PC to do their job. How else can they teleport to you if they where getting messages of player 918172 hacking? Have you even played iClassic?

Posted by Bikerboy

Sure.

Wait, he's offline.

Yeah, I'm going offline too.. He probably raged when he found out the definition. Goodnight bikerboy!  

And once again a fight... Seriously guys you need to go out and do sport to get your energy and bad temper out of you.  

You guys suck. Always arguing. xSecrets i thought you were Europa's manager? So why arz you LAT on Delteria aswell? Isn't a Manager suppose to be commited to his/her server? Also you said your server will be on the hosted list soon but we know why it still isn't.  

Posted by XENA*

And once again a fight... Seriously guys you need to go out and do sport to get your energy and bad temper out of you.

Hell no. It's cold outside.  

Ash you have to be the dumbest kid I've ever come across.

First of all... Please do a spelling/grammar check before you post since you clearly aren't intelligent enough to known the difference for yourself.

Anyway, I nearly fell off my chair when you said "praise US original Zelda players"... First off, I DO give Zelda all the credit in the world. I've even said that in the previous thread which I smashed you (and shut you up) in. Second, YOU are not an original Zelda player, I am, 95% of original Graal oldbies are, YOU were not even a sperm in your father's nut sack when original Graal was out so don't try handing me that crap.

You do realize PC has stood on it's own for 15 years... right? iOS cannot operate without PC... RC is PC based, therefore no PC RC, no iOS. iOS was created by Stefan, AND PC developers, no PC dev's, no iOS. You lose this argument so bad it's pathetic. The worst part is that you seen how bad I wrecked you on the last forum that I even commanded you to stop, and you did... But yet you felt the need to redeem yourself and try again. I never even said anything bad about iOS in this entire argument, so I don't even know why you're so butt hurt about it, I just presented you the facts.

PC > iOS. Fact. Way easier gameplay, we can actually develop, it has a way eaiser chat system to communicate, and the list goes on and on.... But this leads me to the next point you tried to make that I want to crush.... BETTER COMMUNITY!

Just because iOS pulls in a 1k+ player count doesn't mean the community is better, I mean... Who wants a thousand of YOU running around? Your player count is based on 8-12 year olds (mostly) running around with their little e-ego's and acting like e-thugs behind their phone/tablet. It's quality over quantity; Just because you have more doesn't mean it's better. The PC community has loyal players who stick around and most who work hard for the game to make it better. iOS has 10 year olds who jump on and off every now and then, and a lot who quit after a few weeks/months and who do absolutely nothing to better the game. I.e: The "KAN I B STAFF PL0X" generation of Graal.

Oldbies do volunteer on iClassic you idiot... They don't get paid, and they provide them with work... Rufus is the manager of iClassic, right? (I could be wrong).... Do you think he just started Graal 3 years ago? He is a PC oldbie.... Not to mention all of the PC oldbies who provided iClassic with work and don't even work for them, did it as a favor or just to help.

Also, I don't work for an iServer? Like I've said before (but your attention span obviously can't compute) I work for Deltiera (an ex-PC server) Not only that... I don't have to do anything for an iOS community, I've done so much for Graal. Administrator on Dino Valley, Enigma, Doomsday; Dev/Non-Dev staff on N-Pulse, UN... I've done enough for Graal, I don't have to do anything for the iCommunity to gain respect on Graal, I've done enough to earn it from the people who actually matter (not you).

Also, again, if you think $30 a year is rich you must be on welfare and I feel bad for you. Also Biker, I wouldn't go trying to back this failure up if I were you, he got wrecked once and he is getting wrecked again. We don't write essays, we prove points. You guys spew so much crap that it takes a lot of sentences for us to correct it.... If you guys don't have the intelligence or attention span to read a few paragraphs then I feel really sorry for you and maybe you shouldn't start ignorant arguments with intelligent people. All Ash does is ignore our facts and say the same ******ed stuff that we prove wrong all over again....


And to respond to Vendetta, Stefan and Unix have asked me to request Europa to be put back on the hosted list, but I don't want to put us out publicly to the community without being in a certain space that I am happy with us being in. I would like to present the server to the community with a product closer to what we are trying to achieve. We have decided against a few things we started and went a different direction. The server can easily go back up to the hosted list with a simple request... We just chose to do more before we do that. Plus, hosted isn't our ultimate goal; The Classic list is. =) Also just because you manage a server doesn't mean you can't take on other projects... Thinking that is just silly; Learn to multi-task!  

You're all a bunch of butt-hurt little people.
Why can't you all just get along and blow bubbles or some sh*t?