Posted by kenovo

Era seems to be doing pretty good, so I doubt there's any issue there

m8 do you want me to list all the mistakes era made? Era was the bomb when it launched +7months.

also for gun diversity, i am against stuff like poison because they could easily switch to another weapon and you are a sitting duck and its way to easy of a kill. Poison penalties should only be from sticking poison barrels or goonraider. It would definatly further break spring more than it is.

paralyze is a big no no, anything that restricts movement is a no. Whats okay is health leech (drains victims health and you get the health drained from them), shooter hitpoints, burn effect, bleeding out, health drain, inverted controls, etc.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Trade Tables
These god awful abominations are basically cancer to Zone and do nothing but bring other-wise toxic players onto the server. Something like this is horrendous. Zone shouldn't be about trading and making a living with jobs. Zone should be about killing everyone who opposes you. You earn (or buy with a credit card) your living.

What can be done? Delete the entire center of trade tables and remove the code from the server. Afterwards you should probably do a sweep to see if any anthrax-coated players are still around and remove in accordance with GHSSC. Thank you for your patience and understanding while this thread is removed.

No but seriously, these shouldn't even exist. Trading on Zone in general shouldn't exist. Everything you own is what you earned. Where is this sense of accomplishment now? All you need to do is buy some money and then BAM, you can have everything in the serve with only a few presses of your finger and a good $750 CAD wasted.

Completely Agreed! I quit Zone because of this.  

Can you try to think of trading as an easier alternative for new players to obtain weapons rather than a place for 8 year olds to scam other 8 year olds? Today my friend started zone, I had some spare zone coins, and I found this guy who was selling snow rifle for low, and I gave it to my friend. Imagine without trading, my friend will have to obtain money for eons, and what with your "remove jobs" slogan, he's basically screwed.  

Moved thread to the "future improvements" section of the iZone subforum.  

Posted by MrSimons

Another thing you seem to not understand is that iOS Graal is a social game, not like PC Zone, and if some of these changes were made for a very short portion of time you would feel very alone on the server as the playercount slowly drops till the game isn't profitable and Stefan removes it from the app store.

iOS Zone doesn't have to be a social server like the others. The only reason it is is because I believe everyone expects it to. Classic and Era (haven't played Era) have both set a standard for Zone which I don't think Zone has surpassed yet.
While Zone's social aspect is a main feature at the moment, I don't think it will keep players coming back for the long term. If all you wanted to do is talk to your friends, you could just chat on FaceBook or Kik. I understand that those social media is different to Zone, but the concepts are the same. Also, people won't buy gralat packs for social reasons.  

Classic is an entire server based off the fact that people will buy gralats for "social reasons". The method works.  

HERES WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, DELETE THIS SERVER, NOTHING LIKE ZONE AT ALL, IT SHALL BE DELETED, TOO MANY DAMN SERVERS RESEMBLING GRAAL ERA, I CANT TAKE IT! GRALL ZONE>GRAAL ZERA, GRAAL OL WEST, GRAAL UMM, GRALL OL WERA!

THE POINT HERE IS ZONE AND OL WEST IS TOO MUCH LIKE ERA, I MEAN ARE YOU FOR REALS RIGHT NOW? DELETE! CASE CLOSED! JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!  

Posted by -nicegun-

Can you try to think of trading as an easier alternative for new players to obtain weapons rather than a place for 8 year olds to scam other 8 year olds? Today my friend started zone, I had some spare zone coins, and I found this guy who was selling snow rifle for low, and I gave it to my friend.

No, that's a horrible way to think. Trade tables completely destroy any feeling of accomplishment in Zone that older players (some which may have actually worked for their items) had.

Imagine without trading, my friend will have to obtain money for eons, and what with your "remove jobs" slogan, he's basically screwed.

Well that's tough ****-**** for your friend. It's called working up the pole through work and dedication (or Mommy's credit card but this joke is just old now) which is what Zone was based on. Granted you got all weapons for free, they started coming out with newer weapons on PC that required money to buy from planet traders. This was before gelats too.  

I agree the server should add more things that make it more fun to PvP. However, continue to do what it's doing now as well. I see no harm in having both.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Alright so I'm bored and I have no doubt that a fair bit of you people are getting annoyed with all of my constant bitching and ranting SO, I've decided that I shall instead make a list of everything I think is ****ing ******ed in iZone and will add suggestions to make it better (if applicable). This will instead give ya'll a break from me showing up in all of your threads and bashing everything and will instead just leave it here for a bit until I get bored again.. We all good? Yeah? Good. Now, I know some of you will oppose a couple or most of my suggestions while agreeing with others. I also know that there will be a few certain individuals that will want to oppose and disagree with everything I post (though I won't point any fingers)
*COUGH*

Spoiler

MrSimons seems to do this quite often. He has his opinions and that's okay... but he seems like a real Negative Nikki

*COUGH*

Anyways, on with this list.

Pets
Now, I honestly don't understand the purpose of these things at all. Some just absolutely don't mix at all and those would be the GK sprites. All they do is provide clutter and act as a nuisance (especially when people feel like making a long line of around 9 or robots). Since they serve no purpose other than to annoy, why have them? They make Zone less of a war zone and more of social game full of clutter.

Wat do: Remove them. If you must, then refund 1/4 of the price. No sense in having clutter and wasting both time+energy on something as useless as these when it can be put towards something with a purpose.

Jobs
Granted, I know money can be bought with Mommy's credit card and all that jazz, but I still think jobs are fairly unnecessary. Sure they can help people along with gaining better weapons and such if they don't (or can't) afford to buy money, but that's tough luck for them.

My suggestion? Killing gives money. If it already does, then increase the base amount by a small portion. Let players give a good amount of money per kill. I'm not sure if the bounty system is set up or working, but allow players that stay alive and gain kills while on a streak accumulate bounty. As it goes higher the player will be worth more money to kill. It'll give an incentive to get their lazy asses out of OSL and into the battlefield. Don't give the excuse of "well what if players just want to relax?" You're a very bad person Zone is set in a post apocalyptic future where wars are constant. You need to be on your feet killing to survive, not talking to your eGF or eBF ;)))))).

Trade Tables
These god awful abominations are basically cancer to Zone and do nothing but bring other-wise toxic players onto the server. Something like this is horrendous. Zone shouldn't be about trading and making a living with jobs. Zone should be about killing everyone who opposes you. You earn (or buy with a credit card) your living.

What can be done? Delete the entire center of trade tables and remove the code from the server. Afterwards you should probably do a sweep to see if any anthrax-coated players are still around and remove in accordance with GHSSC. Thank you for your patience and understanding while this thread is removed.

No but seriously, these shouldn't even exist. Trading on Zone in general shouldn't exist. Everything you own is what you earned. Where is this sense of accomplishment now? All you need to do is buy some money and then BAM, you can have everything in the serve with only a few presses of your finger and a good $750 CAD wasted.

Gun Diversity
Now sure, Zone may have a fair bit of weapons that fall some wheres within their price range, but within each range, each gun is damn-near the same. Most differences are only around a .1 - .2 change in speed or a .07 degree increase in variation. This is bland and boring. Then we have melee weapons which swing way too fast and are pretty much all the same thing with some differences in damage. Isn't that exciting?!

You should: Add diversity. Make some guns have high spread and low damage while others fire multiple bullets. Make some act almost like a shotgun with lose or tight spread. Be creative; something different and unique. Have guns actually have a reason to be used when it's outside of the god-tier gun. Give a niche god dammit.

As for melee weapons they should be toned down in speed while given some kind of unique ability depending on the item. Let's take something like the lightsabre for example. It does a good amount of damage and can deflect bullets. However it swings at the speed equivalent to a hobo on bath salts trying to eat your face because he thinks you're a pork sausage. This isn't good. Reflection is nice. It's unique and it allows you an advantage. However, you move the same speed as everyone else and deal insane damage. Change things around and give a reason for other melee weapons to be used.

Now something like the riot shield (Or whatever the hell it's called) on the otherhand. It blocks a lot of damage, but outside of that it's pretty well useless. It should either boost speed to allow you to cover better distance, or slow you down a bit while having an attack added. Just something. Make **** unique and viable to all wealth classes.

Squads

Possibly the most ass-backwards idea of Zone. Good in theory this could have actually been a nice improvement to Zone. Some planets could have been an all-out PK fest with squads all competing against each other for nothing other than kills, money and more blood shed. However, the tradition just /had/ to be followed when it comes to an iOS guild and the idea of it being an actual improvement became an abhorrent nightmare when things such as "time" and rewards were given for guilds that accumulate so much "time." Nearly everything is centered around squads now, which is defeating the whole purpose of a lot of Zone's recycled maps.

What do? Remove the time tracking aspect of guilds. Instead, have it track the total amount of kills the entire group has wracked up per planet or something. Remove rewards and time for the guilds. Revert all planets that allow squads to accumulate time back into the original concept. Two (Some times up to 4 depending on the map) teams competing against each other for the objective. You're forced with the tag of that team and you're unable to change. If you leave the planet then you're stuck with it when you come back until a game ends. Too much **** is focused on small squad-based battles and that just isn't Zone. That's Era's niche. Have these team games award gralats if you /must/ give an incentive.

TL;DR: Remove squads or the notion of time = rewards and instead have planets that have 2-4 static teams that cannot be swapped until the game ends.

Temporary /rant

I'll most likely add more to this as I think about it. Some things I haven't added like player houses and such because they're not that big of a deal.

Come at me bro.

The next thing you know after adding/removing all these is "Players On: 7".  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

No, that's a horrible way to think. Trade tables completely destroy any feeling of accomplishment in Zone that older players (some which may have actually worked for their items) had.

I kind of agree with this part....  

Posted by MrSimons

Another thing you seem to not understand is that iOS Graal is a social game,

u foken wot m8? Im getting real tired of your **** simmons. Like bro do you even graal? iOS graal is not entirely social, if anything, its competitive, theres era thats clearly competitive, like if you played bases in era, the competitiveness of gangs was freaking ridiculous. Like sk vs ebi, gegs vs gets, ifreeze vs obsidian, sk vs nbk, want me to go on? The list goes on for a very long time. They were at it almost 24/7, there were some seriously fierce rivalries going on in era, in era, gangs are at eachothers neck constantly. Zone was set up to be that way offering lots of bases and way larger battlefields to fight on. However i do not see squads up at eachothers necks. Thats what zone needs to be, squads up at eachothers necks constantly. Not a social game like it is now. Theres a reason why era is one of the fastest growing graal games, and thats because its fun and lots of pvp action, unlike zone which is the slowest growing graal game since theres no point of playing it. The squad wars are almost non existent, and its basically classic with guns.

TLDR zone is set up to be a competitive server, not a social server.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

TLDR zone is set up to be a competitive server, not a social server.

Considering most of iZone's basing has deteriorated to the same people just using a squad to reach the 1,000 hours milestone for a "rare" hat, I can see why the squads aren't usually "at each others' necks".  

Posted by Isaac

Considering most of iZone's basing has deteriorated to the same people just using a squad to reach the 1,000 hours milestone for a "rare" hat, I can see why the squads aren't usually "at each others' necks".

An easy fix for this is to completely remove the notion of time = rewards along side reverting a good 95% of the planets into what they originally were. Squads are one of the bigger things killing the PvP aspect of Zone because of rewards.  

Or do what a lot of other MMOs do and only restrict a player to own/be in one squad at a time, making competetive larger and reduce squad hopping. Add something like a squadron which is like a temporary party for up to ten people, for those who will complain about being restricted to one squad and unable to be with their friends who are in a different social squad.