Make Us Of Unused Buildings

ShayneMc · 09-22-2011

There are a lot of unused (pointless, to say the least) buildings in Classic. So i'm going to share my ideas for some of the buildings:

School (released recently): i'd like to see this as a way to introduce iphone players to the PC editor. Would be nice to have a little informative classroom with books on scripting, level design. i'd definitely like to see Azrael's methods and structure for his level designing. it might get more players to submit content, thus growing the community of Graal.

Soccer Field: Why is the soccer field inside? i don't mind it, but why spread all these relevant areas all over the map? for instance, the school and soccer field are very relevant and it would be a cool idea to remove some of the useless buildings in North Graal and have a school yard/recreation park with soccer, outdoor sparring and pk centres, etc.

Azrael's Treehouse: Does the Zanza family even visit this place anymore? Let alone, use it for anything such as meetings, etc? Personally, i think it should be turned into a shop. The success of Az hats in Rev and Nexus was great, so why not supply them more often? i believe some are for sale, but recolours would be nice too. Similar to the Helsing hats (i think that's what they're called?). Maybe the shop wouldn't be open to everyone, but a new "hour shop" for 2k+ selling rare hats.

NYNs Magic Shop: This room has been put to good use, but the opposite door should be opened and sell wizard/mage bodies, crystal ball furniture, etc and maybe 3 pictures on the wall that require a password to get in (something like the harry potter pictures). What would be inside the rooms? nothing in particular, as a lot of buildings are just there for added content anyways.

Guild Houses: Okay, these are used fairly a lot and shouldn't be under this thread, but i'd like to see a lava guild house, personally. There's a laval house, so why not a laval guild house? Especially for a new Graal-O-Ween update.

This also shouldn't be in this thread, but it would make good use of NPCs and less travelling. Vendor people. i honestly have no clue what these are called, but they are similar to the guys serving peanuts at baseball games? sorry, i live in Canada so i'm not very familiar with baseball events.

But anyways, they would wonder around towns selling new hats/bombs/arrows, etc. that way, if a new hat is released in the SnowTown hat shop, VG members (if they are currently holding SwampTown) would only have to walk a few steps out their tower doors and purchase the items from a vendor NPC (i'm only using VG as an example, because i needed to show a long distance between towers and shops, and the only shop and tower i could think of that was spread out so far was swamp town tower and snow town shop. and of course, i've mostly seen VG holding this tower)

opinions? also, check out my other thread on my horse fix idea.

MrSimons · 09-22-2011

I like lava gh idea, school idea, and magic shop idea, Ifvthey made Az hats super expensive then I'd like it, not sure about vendor ppl tho.

Tricxta · 09-22-2011

I dont see the problem with empty houses... There all part of the experience, in zelda not every house has a purpose... not every house should have a purpose... What your asking for is a fair bit of work and as a result no new gameplay is being produced, its just all same old. I suggest you give making a playerworld a crack and you'll soon discover how much of a task it is. I know from my past experience at building my own playerworld with a friend.

NYN · 09-22-2011

All good suggestions. I personally put that magic door there to motivate myself to make a room. If I were a good enough scripture, a quest but the least I could do is make a shop. Been too busy to play Graal. Can only really go on Sundays.

Btw there are abandoned and unused buildings IRL... GRAAL IS LIKE REAL LIFE!

ShayneMc · 09-22-2011

Posted by NYN

All good suggestions. I personally put that magic door there to motivate myself to make a room. If I were a good enough scripture, a quest but the least I could do is make a shop. Been too busy to play Graal. Can only really go on Sundays.

Btw there are abandoned and unused buildings IRL... GRAAL IS LIKE REAL LIFE!

Honestly in real life, abandoned buildings are my favourite. Especially the large abandoned hotels I've heard about in NYC. I can imagine an airsoft or paintball event in one of those. But Graal is a game, it should have a purpose. At least the majority of it.

A lot of my ideas, I try to base on scripts/ganis/graphics that already exist. Like you had turned the soccer ball script into a Magic 8 Ball, would be nice to see other balls like basketballs, footballs, etc. Just for furniture.

Posted by Tricxta

I dont see the problem with empty houses... There all part of the experience, in zelda not every house has a purpose... not every house should have a purpose... What your asking for is a fair bit of work and as a result no new gameplay is being produced, its just all same old. I suggest you give making a playerworld a crack and you'll soon discover how much of a task it is. I know from my past experience at building my own playerworld with a friend.

A lot of people don't take a very good approach at making player worlds. Personally, I design a whole level of houses and save them all as templates, then I connect random pieces of tiles and also save them as templates, just in case I find use for them later.

After that, I work with the level generator (GMAP) to generate my landscape, pop the houses where I find them to be of good use and think of a purpose for them. Like I said, I don't have the time/money to create my own server or I would. I was thinking of quests that give you a label, such as a farming quest to become a farmer, a mining quest to become a miner, etc. And you complete these quests to open new rooms, new methods of making money, etc.

Kentiman · 09-26-2011

Yes! i agree (with original post) Not all abandoned buildings should be redone but when you have entire abandoned TOWNS, its no fun. Just an idea is that maybe the school should be moved to balamb and should be used as tutorial area....

NYN · 09-26-2011

Graal isn't a game. :-)

Kentiman · 09-26-2011

Posted by NYN

Graal isn't a game. :-)

Lol. Its more like.....HEAVEN!

Maikeru · 09-26-2011

Posted by NYN

Graal isn't a game. :-)

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ShayneMc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 124	Make Us Of Unused Buildings There are a lot of unused (pointless, to say the least) buildings in Classic. So i'm going to share my ideas for some of the buildings: School (released recently): i'd like to see this as a way to introduce iphone players to the PC editor. Would be nice to have a little informative classroom with books on scripting, level design. i'd definitely like to see Azrael's methods and structure for his level designing. it might get more players to submit content, thus growing the community of Graal. Soccer Field: Why is the soccer field inside? i don't mind it, but why spread all these relevant areas all over the map? for instance, the school and soccer field are very relevant and it would be a cool idea to remove some of the useless buildings in North Graal and have a school yard/recreation park with soccer, outdoor sparring and pk centres, etc. Azrael's Treehouse: Does the Zanza family even visit this place anymore? Let alone, use it for anything such as meetings, etc? Personally, i think it should be turned into a shop. The success of Az hats in Rev and Nexus was great, so why not supply them more often? i believe some are for sale, but recolours would be nice too. Similar to the Helsing hats (i think that's what they're called?). Maybe the shop wouldn't be open to everyone, but a new "hour shop" for 2k+ selling rare hats. NYNs Magic Shop: This room has been put to good use, but the opposite door should be opened and sell wizard/mage bodies, crystal ball furniture, etc and maybe 3 pictures on the wall that require a password to get in (something like the harry potter pictures). What would be inside the rooms? nothing in particular, as a lot of buildings are just there for added content anyways. Guild Houses: Okay, these are used fairly a lot and shouldn't be under this thread, but i'd like to see a lava guild house, personally. There's a laval house, so why not a laval guild house? Especially for a new Graal-O-Ween update. This also shouldn't be in this thread, but it would make good use of NPCs and less travelling. Vendor people. i honestly have no clue what these are called, but they are similar to the guys serving peanuts at baseball games? sorry, i live in Canada so i'm not very familiar with baseball events. But anyways, they would wonder around towns selling new hats/bombs/arrows, etc. that way, if a new hat is released in the SnowTown hat shop, VG members (if they are currently holding SwampTown) would only have to walk a few steps out their tower doors and purchase the items from a vendor NPC (i'm only using VG as an example, because i needed to show a long distance between towers and shops, and the only shop and tower i could think of that was spread out so far was swamp town tower and snow town shop. and of course, i've mostly seen VG holding this tower) opinions? also, check out my other thread on my horse fix idea.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	I like lava gh idea, school idea, and magic shop idea, Ifvthey made Az hats super expensive then I'd like it, not sure about vendor ppl tho.

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Tricxta The muffin man Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Burger Refuge Posts: 2,262	I dont see the problem with empty houses... There all part of the experience, in zelda not every house has a purpose... not every house should have a purpose... What your asking for is a fair bit of work and as a result no new gameplay is being produced, its just all same old. I suggest you give making a playerworld a crack and you'll soon discover how much of a task it is. I know from my past experience at building my own playerworld with a friend.

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NYN Magic Maker Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 398	All good suggestions. I personally put that magic door there to motivate myself to make a room. If I were a good enough scripture, a quest but the least I could do is make a shop. Been too busy to play Graal. Can only really go on Sundays. Btw there are abandoned and unused buildings IRL... GRAAL IS LIKE REAL LIFE!

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Kentiman Noob Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 106	Yes! i agree (with original post) Not all abandoned buildings should be redone but when you have entire abandoned TOWNS, its no fun. Just an idea is that maybe the school should be moved to balamb and should be used as tutorial area....