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08-10-2018
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Royales/Architect
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Location: Mile High Club
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08-10-2018
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 10,000 lakes
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you're right when you say this **** won't prove anything though |
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08-11-2018
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Paris
Posts: 270
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Sorry man but i barely delay back in my country (France) and that's where i got most of my wins, you have video proofs on Youtube. Only time I delay badly is when I'm traveling and I'm not even as good when i do. Plus when one spars a delayer, that delayer has to predict exactly the same position in which their opponent will be after x ms, so you both are basically sparring in the same condition, you both have to predict where you wll be after x ms or you could also imagine that the non delayer is the delayer and the delayer is an american with no delay, it is the same exact thing. But you guys will never understand this and will keep complaining about delayers instead of understand whats the problem and why everyone hates sparring delayers when they could be easy af to win sigh You played in an area where everyone was new to graal and you had several years of experience, which explains your ratio back then but people have learnt how to spar thoughout time and everyone got way better than they were during the reign of (US). It was basically as if you were sparring noobs, I mean one of your finals were against (Seductive) if I'm not mistaken lol but could (US) win rn? i doubt it I sparred pretty much from 2013/2014-2017 actively, most active time of sparring on classic imo I will be relevant more than you will ever be. I have not seen you spar back then since I was not playing and started graal as a PKer, maybe you were better than what you are rn but rn you spar pretty much like any other sparrer nothing out of the box. |
08-11-2018
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Emperor
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 1,000
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all drama aside, 2012 was the most active year of sparring and sparrers back then were on average better players than what we have right now. most top sparrers from that time share this opinion, it isn’t just me hyping up my era. you guys can have your little feud but please don’t try to discredit 2011-2013 sparring like it was “sparring noobs.” a common response to this would be “lol everyone complained about pc players because they didn’t know how to spar yet” and that isn’t true. we complained about pc players because they had a major advantage over idevices at the time in processing speed. a pc player naturally moved faster than every idevice until the 5th generation. that being said, as someone who has sparred since late 2010, i think rashard/ares is at least top 5 all-time across all platforms, definitely better than other top-tier sparrers of right now like brett. and i dont have any bias because i was in (US) with him, i barely ever talked to the guy and honestly didn’t even like him that much.
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08-11-2018
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
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if you're just gonna cry and say i hacked when you lose then it's not even worth my time, i already went through this with zeross this is accurate if you were a PC player that came over though, like surely you agree that the people with 10 years of sparring experience getting all their wins in 2011-2012 is not an accurate representation of their skill level, it's more of a representation of their experience and how they abused it against players who were really young and/or brand new to the game and didn't understand the mechanics of sparring yet i think there were a lot of strong idevice sparrers back then though, i can't say if it was or wasn't more competitive for idevice sparring back then but i wouldn't be surprised same thing for the mixed GST, sarah is correct about that, can we name any really strong mixed teams that US faced before mother came around and started winning? PC sparring didn't really get competitive until around the time mother was formed - not as a direct result of mother or anything, but just because it's around that time that PC players started playing the game a lot more… and even then, sparrers like abel, ihercules, and clops were considered top 10 or maybe even top 5, not even close today (not saying they're bad, just nowhere near as highly regarded as they were then) |
08-11-2018
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Emperor
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New York
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i mean no offense to those i’m mentioning but let’s not act like alumni is facing any competitive guilds either. no1 (2nd place this gst) was commando, scar chaos, some french dude i don’t even know, les (best player on the team imo), and cody, who is 15 years old. it’s not like james42069 was some legendary threatening sparrer and you guys lost to his guild. mixed gst has always just been a one team tournament tbh, especially recently with many good players either completely gone or inactive. regardless as a 2011-12 player who did understand the mechanics, it’s not like every pc was automatically a god, i personally only found rashard and prado to be challenging, and way more challenging than current top tier pcs even though i’m considered worse rn than i was back then. |
08-11-2018
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Python
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I think mixed was competitive with multiple good teams in the era of alumni/apostles/holy or blackguard/others, but lately mixed is just a mirror of US and nobodies as well, just with Alumni. I also think you might be overstating how much you really knew about the game then. If evidence points to "all ppl were worse after this time period", maybe it's you that got smarter about the game rather than everyone getting worse in comparison |