Posted by Colin

Yes I'll be leaving shortly, but whatever this date is you guys have for it and the date Darlene will be moderator is completely false and someone was just joking around.

Darlene joined to message me about something that had already been worked out by the time she got in contact with me, there is nothing so far that indicates she is going to be a moderator.

Will she at some point? Maybe, but right now she has done nothing but just register and browse the forums which everyone has the right to do. It's extremely disappointing to see you guys talk about how great Graalians is but then harass Darlene every chance possible just for being here, especially when the majority of you are doing it as it's the "cool" thing to do.

While, yes, it's within the realm of possibilities that everything goes south and Graalians won't be the same, it's also possible that things for the most part will remain relatively normal and Graalians won't be as bad as you guys are thinking it will be.

Me leaving is in no way 'jumping ship' because I'm expecting Graalians to be ruined, I've just had some personal disagreements with certain parties and my time to move on was already approaching due to real life responsibilities.

A forum is only as good as its users are so I suggest you guys actually wait for a valid reason before hitting the panic button.

I apologize for any panic caused, the message must've not been clear to me.
Delete the thread if necessary.  

Graalify master race  

Posted by Weeno

Graalify master race

rip
 

This forum went to **** ever since rofos left.

//who's Darlene?  

Posted by twilit

//who's Darlene?

A moderator for the official graal forums.  

I don't give a hoodilly-do about who Darlene is. I'm just upset about the Maloria censorship.  

Posted by Dusty

May as well just ride it out and see how it goes instead of abandoning ship before it even hits the iceberg.

I'm with dusty on this, but if it does go to **** I'm Packing my **** and leaving  

So this means there might be brief moment of uncensored ****.. hallelfkingujah

Posted by Yog

I don't give a hoodilly-do about who Darlene is. I'm just upset about the Maloria censorship.

Was only because they was going to jump ship themselves

It's hape censorship you gotta worry about @Maloria/Ava/KT etc  

Posted by Colin

Yes I'll be leaving shortly, but whatever this date is you guys have for it and the date Darlene will be moderator is completely false and someone was just joking around.

Darlene joined to message me about something that had already been worked out by the time she got in contact with me, there is nothing so far that indicates she is going to be a moderator.

Will she at some point? Maybe, but right now she has done nothing but just register and browse the forums which everyone has the right to do. It's extremely disappointing to see you guys talk about how great Graalians is but then harass Darlene every chance possible just for being here, especially when the majority of you are doing it as it's the "cool" thing to do.

While, yes, it's within the realm of possibilities that everything goes south and Graalians won't be the same, it's also possible that things for the most part will remain relatively normal and Graalians won't be as bad as you guys are thinking it will be.

Me leaving is in no way 'jumping ship' because I'm expecting Graalians to be ruined, I've just had some personal disagreements with certain parties and my time to move on was already approaching due to real life responsibilities.

A forum is only as good as its users are so I suggest you guys actually wait for a valid reason before hitting the panic button.

Was it your call to accept payments on behalf of Graalians, or was that out of your hands? I don't know Graalians' circumstances, but to head an independent fan-community and accept money from that kind of source takes a substantial lack of integrity. I can't fault Cyberjoueurs or whatever the company is now for approaching a with the intention of a buyout, that's just common sense for a business to want to control every popular platform of their product. But jesus, man.

I don't know most of the people that frequent this place, but I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. Was such a drive ever brought up, or did you go straight to selling your soul? Hell, if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.

A forum is only as good as its users

Yeah, nah, that just really makes it look like you don't know what sort of can of worms this is.







also darlene's not that bad  

Colin doesn't own graalians, hape does now apparently well supposively has paid for it for a few years now(probs a year) So he ain't been paid I doubt.. If anything they'd have paid him for his censorship lmao  

Posted by G Fatal

Colin doesn't own graalians, hape does now apparently well supposively has paid for it for a few years now(probs a year) So he ain't been paid I doubt.. If anything they'd have paid him for his censorship lmao

The point is that under no circumstances should have Graalians (or any independent site) accepted money from Unix (or any outside power like that). That's stupid as ****. Anyone who would be cool with that without having pursued other options is just asking to burn the place down.  

The people that have owned it barely ever come on or quit completely so I don't think they generally care, money talks in business... That being said money/greed also can destroy businesses.

Bets on this forum to be updated for playerworlds and graal3D.  

Posted by G Fatal

money talks in business...

Posted by pojo

I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. [...] if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.

ffs there's no :cool: emote so I have to use this 😎  

Posted by Weeno

Graalify master race

Please, no.  

Posted by pojo

Was it your call to accept payments on behalf of Graalians, or was that out of your hands? I don't know Graalians' circumstances, but to head an independent fan-community and accept money from that kind of source takes a substantial lack of integrity. I can't fault Cyberjoueurs or whatever the company is now for approaching a with the intention of a buyout, that's just common sense for a business to want to control every popular platform of their product. But jesus, man.

I don't know most of the people that frequent this place, but I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. Was such a drive ever brought up, or did you go straight to selling your soul? Hell, if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.



Yeah, nah, that just really makes it look like you don't know what sort of can of worms this is.

I believe yourself missing a few key points.

- Toonslab has officially owned Graalians for a while now, therefore not making it independent.

- Colin didn't seek out payment, and declined it when he was offered. That's hardly "selling your soul".

- It wasn't Colin's decision to give Graalians to Toonslab.