Posted by Howl

Yeah, with the new one, I thought that was close to being done a few months back? Is there any actual progress being made on the server right now or is everything on hold? I mean, I remember reading that there were tons of updates planned for the future a while back and since then nothing has really happened. Is it due to lack of staff or wat.

Whenever it was said that there were "lots of updates planned", the key word was planned. There has always been a lot of ideas that were approved, but nothing ever came of them. There's not a lack of staff, but there is a lack of scripters. No one on the server really has adequate knowledge to do the projects that people want done. Even with Tashkin as manager, scripting was still the biggest problem. The only project that I know of that may still be in the works is a prokect that I believe Alpho is scripting. It's apparently pretty big, but it seems to me that it still should have been finished by now. I wouldn't expect anything big to come out for a while.  

Alpho stopped working with GraalOnline a few months ago.

And yes like PigParty said. We have projects which only need to be scripted to be released

@Howl the server is not on hold. But we chose to prioritize things that will benefit players over a longer period of this instead of letting them throw money at us with unnecessary holidays right now. I'm pretty sure more players would be happy longer with a new game mode then with a temporary holiday shops. Holidays will still come up but in addition we decided to focus more on international holidays then just purely American ones. Like the memorial day, barely any celebrates it, and therefore it has been cancelled. We wanna bring in more international holidays. Christmas, easter, Chinese new year, and many more.  

Posted by Chelterrar

Alpho stopped working with GraalOnline a few months ago.

And yes like PigParty said. We have projects which only need to be scripted to be released

@Howl the server is not on hold. But we chose to prioritize things that will benefit players over a longer period of this instead of letting them throw money at us with unnecessary holidays right now. I'm pretty sure more players would be happy longer with a new game mode then with a temporary holiday shops. Holidays will still come up but in addition we decided to focus more on international holidays then just purely American ones. Like the memorial day, barely any celebrates it, and therefore it has been cancelled. We wanna bring in more international holidays. Christmas, easter, Chinese new year, and many more.

I'm guessing things like graphics updates aren't a priority right now?  

The way it seems to me, is that nothing is a priority right now.  

inb4 a global is made manager  

An issue ive noticed is that everything has to be "filtered" thru management, which is doing far more harm than good. Like i stated before, NONE of our managers have ever been proficient as a full time player meaning they don't understand everything thats going on in the gameplay. All ideas are ultimately up to them, and if they don't fully understand whats going on, then we can't ever expect to progress because any good chances can easily be messed up by them being clueless about one or many things at a time regarding just ONE single idea. This is why we need someone who plays the game fulltime as the person who overwatches and helps implement things, this "manager" interpretation we have being "the guy who calls all the shots and says what goes and doesnt" needs to stop, its nothing but hindering and limits potential and creativity. When i used to work on zone with alex, i felt like i worked with him and not "for" him, i didnt have very many restrictions on what i could add because he trusted me in the fact that i knew what i was doing, and that allowed me to get to where i had a lot of new content and updates lined up and done and some almost done and were getting released soon but sadly that didnt get to happen because our power tripping managers. But when carlito took over, i got hindered pretty badly because he doesnt accept ideas besides his own, and even tho i was still able to get a lot prepared, there still wouldve been delays in some parts just due to that. This is why i especially don't want carlito and chelt as managers, because we cant progress with people who are new yet are making all the decisions, heck, people on here who have extensive playtime like me, pigparty, platinum and others with 1000's of hours put in would make better managers because they have the credibility and knowledge to back up what their talking about, like Pigparty trades a lot, if he had an idea to make trades better, id know where he'd be coming from with it because he's experienced it first hand for 100's of hours, or if Platinum had an idea for basing, itd be credible because i see her base, but if someone never shot a gun before and wanted to tell me ideas or rants about pking, it wouldnt be worth my time to even listen because they have little to no knowledge of it, and honestly thats one major thing i don't like about our current managers, they dont know crap about the game but come on here like theyre our lord and savior but boss others around, and ideas are added based on what they feel and that feeling comes from their shallow pool of knowledge they have of the game, its a complete waste of everyones time and actually rather insulting. Its crap like this why the whole zone forums is nothing but rants, tashkin just had bad, unplanned ideas in general, alex's term wasnt that bad (overall he just didnt have the time, some ideas were ok, some bad due to his lack of playtime), but now we're at its worse in terms of management, we need a veteran zone player to be the one leading because theyll be able to do the job far better than the previous and current ones because they know whats going on around the game as a player.  

Posted by GenoIndeed

An issue ive noticed is that everything has to be "filtered" thru management, which is doing far more harm than good. Like i stated before, NONE of our managers have ever been proficient as a full time player meaning they don't understand everything thats going on in the gameplay. All ideas are ultimately up to them, and if they don't fully understand whats going on, then we can't ever expect to progress because any good chances can easily be messed up by them being clueless about one or many things at a time regarding just ONE single idea. This is why we need someone who plays the game fulltime as the person who overwatches and helps implement things, this "manager" interpretation we have being "the guy who calls all the shots and says what goes and doesnt" needs to stop, its nothing but hindering and limits potential and creativity. When i used to work on zone with alex, i felt like i worked with him and not "for" him, i didnt have very many restrictions on what i could add because he trusted me in the fact that i knew what i was doing, and that allowed me to get to where i had a lot of new content and updates lined up and done and some almost done and were getting released soon but sadly that didnt get to happen because our power tripping managers. But when carlito took over, i got hindered pretty badly because he doesnt accept ideas besides his own, and even tho i was still able to get a lot prepared, there still wouldve been delays in some parts just due to that. This is why i especially don't want carlito and chelt as managers, because we cant progress with people who are new yet are making all the decisions, heck, people on here who have extensive playtime like me, pigparty, platinum and others with 1000's of hours put in would make better managers because they have the credibility and knowledge to back up what their talking about, like Pigparty trades a lot, if he had an idea to make trades better, id know where he'd be coming from with it because he's experienced it first hand for 100's of hours, or if Platinum had an idea for basing, itd be credible because i see her base, but if someone never shot a gun before and wanted to tell me ideas or rants about pking, it wouldnt be worth my time to even listen because they have little to no knowledge of it, and honestly thats one major thing i don't like about our current managers, they dont know crap about the game but come on here like theyre our lord and savior but boss others around, and ideas are added based on what they feel and that feeling comes from their shallow pool of knowledge they have of the game, its a complete waste of everyones time and actually rather insulting. Its crap like this why the whole zone forums is nothing but rants, tashkin just had bad, unplanned ideas in general, alex's term wasnt that bad (overall he just didnt have the time, some ideas were ok, some bad due to his lack of playtime), but now we're at its worse in terms of management, we need a veteran zone player to be the one leading because theyll be able to do the job far better than the previous and current ones because they know whats going on around the game as a player.

wtf  

Posted by GenoIndeed

An issue ive noticed is that everything has to be "filtered" thru management, which is doing far more harm than good. Like i stated before, NONE of our managers have ever been proficient as a full time player meaning they don't understand everything thats going on in the gameplay. All ideas are ultimately up to them, and if they don't fully understand whats going on, then we can't ever expect to progress because any good chances can easily be messed up by them being clueless about one or many things at a time regarding just ONE single idea. This is why we need someone who plays the game fulltime as the person who overwatches and helps implement things, this "manager" interpretation we have being "the guy who calls all the shots and says what goes and doesnt" needs to stop, its nothing but hindering and limits potential and creativity. When i used to work on zone with alex, i felt like i worked with him and not "for" him, i didnt have very many restrictions on what i could add because he trusted me in the fact that i knew what i was doing, and that allowed me to get to where i had a lot of new content and updates lined up and done and some almost done and were getting released soon but sadly that didnt get to happen because our power tripping managers. But when carlito took over, i got hindered pretty badly because he doesnt accept ideas besides his own, and even tho i was still able to get a lot prepared, there still wouldve been delays in some parts just due to that. This is why i especially don't want carlito and chelt as managers, because we cant progress with people who are new yet are making all the decisions, heck, people on here who have extensive playtime like me, pigparty, platinum and others with 1000's of hours put in would make better managers because they have the credibility and knowledge to back up what their talking about, like Pigparty trades a lot, if he had an idea to make trades better, id know where he'd be coming from with it because he's experienced it first hand for 100's of hours, or if Platinum had an idea for basing, itd be credible because i see her base, but if someone never shot a gun before and wanted to tell me ideas or rants about pking, it wouldnt be worth my time to even listen because they have little to no knowledge of it, and honestly thats one major thing i don't like about our current managers, they dont know crap about the game but come on here like theyre our lord and savior but boss others around, and ideas are added based on what they feel and that feeling comes from their shallow pool of knowledge they have of the game, its a complete waste of everyones time and actually rather insulting. Its crap like this why the whole zone forums is nothing but rants, tashkin just had bad, unplanned ideas in general, alex's term wasnt that bad (overall he just didnt have the time, some ideas were ok, some bad due to his lack of playtime), but now we're at its worse in terms of management, we need a veteran zone player to be the one leading because theyll be able to do the job far better than the previous and current ones because they know whats going on around the game as a player.

tl;dr  

Stop quoting that long msg  

when i was staff i asked rice or alex if they needed tileset work done, but someone else was already on it

making holiday things was not really to my liking  

Posted by Elk

when i was staff i asked rice or alex if they needed tileset work done, but someone else was already on it

making holiday things was not really to my liking

No you didn't do anything to be involved because you had zero motivation to even figure out what was going on. The team was not making holiday items at the time or anything either. It was chaotic.  

Anyone remember that tileset that Shane was working on?  

That super mario looking one?  

Posted by GenoIndeed

When i used to work on zone with alex, i felt like i worked with him and not "for" him, i didnt have very many restrictions on what i could add because he trusted me in the fact that i knew what i was doing

Didn't work out so well did it?



(if you think we faked this, good for you. It wasn't. The only thing I did do was remove your IPs from it ^^)

Posted by GenoIndeed

An issue ive noticed is that everything has to be "filtered" thru management, which is doing far more harm than good. Like i stated before, NONE of our managers have ever been proficient as a full time player meaning they don't understand everything thats going on in the gameplay. All ideas are ultimately up to them, and if they don't fully understand whats going on, then we can't ever expect to progress because any good chances can easily be messed up by them being clueless about one or many things at a time regarding just ONE single idea. This is why we need someone who plays the game fulltime as the person who overwatches and helps implement things, this "manager" interpretation we have being "the guy who calls all the shots and says what goes and doesnt" needs to stop, its nothing but hindering and limits potential and creativity. When i used to work on zone with alex, i felt like i worked with him and not "for" him, i didnt have very many restrictions on what i could add because he trusted me in the fact that i knew what i was doing, and that allowed me to get to where i had a lot of new content and updates lined up and done and some almost done and were getting released soon but sadly that didnt get to happen because our power tripping managers. But when carlito took over, i got hindered pretty badly because he doesnt accept ideas besides his own, and even tho i was still able to get a lot prepared, there still wouldve been delays in some parts just due to that. This is why i especially don't want carlito and chelt as managers, because we cant progress with people who are new yet are making all the decisions, heck, people on here who have extensive playtime like me, pigparty, platinum and others with 1000's of hours put in would make better managers because they have the credibility and knowledge to back up what their talking about, like Pigparty trades a lot, if he had an idea to make trades better, id know where he'd be coming from with it because he's experienced it first hand for 100's of hours, or if Platinum had an idea for basing, itd be credible because i see her base, but if someone never shot a gun before and wanted to tell me ideas or rants about pking, it wouldnt be worth my time to even listen because they have little to no knowledge of it, and honestly thats one major thing i don't like about our current managers, they dont know crap about the game but come on here like theyre our lord and savior but boss others around, and ideas are added based on what they feel and that feeling comes from their shallow pool of knowledge they have of the game, its a complete waste of everyones time and actually rather insulting. Its crap like this why the whole zone forums is nothing but rants, tashkin just had bad, unplanned ideas in general, alex's term wasnt that bad (overall he just didnt have the time, some ideas were ok, some bad due to his lack of playtime), but now we're at its worse in terms of management, we need a veteran zone player to be the one leading because theyll be able to do the job far better than the previous and current ones because they know whats going on around the game as a player.

Not everything is filtered through management. Projects yes, because we need some kind of leadership on new content. Else every member works on something else. And it ends up in total chaos. I've played graal since quite a few years. I don't say I'm a zone pro, but it's not like my thousands of hours on graal just appeared out of the blue. The thing that you don't get is that I have a team. A team I ask constantly about what we could improve and add. You can ask every team member you want. In every meeting I ask for requests and if there still is something anyone wants to say. Of course I won't really allow ideas to be worked on now, which don't fit anything. Like someone requested a weapon type which would be entirely new. Yet with the way the weapons are scripted right now, we can't do that. Therefore I told him that and that was the end of it. I also told him that it was a good idea and could work with the new weapon system. And therefore there is a good chance it's getting implemented. Just not right now. I have the levels team working in groups on a specific thing. And that's with every team. Every staff member knows they can pm me about everything. And they often do, and it's starting to work out. They see me as their friend and not their enemy. Of course fights and discussions still happen, but that's totally normal.

If someone asks me a serious question I try to answer it, no matter if it's a staff member or a player. Both Titanium and PigParty for example have asked me how they could help or how it's going. I told them the truth about it. Without spoilering anything. Like I am here on graalians read through every Zone thread, reading and noting down serious requests.

And about the rest of your useless complaints (you keep repeating yourself. We get it by now. You hate me and think I suck as a manager) but have you actually ever experienced what all of us can do? No. We are trying to make zone more fun then it ever was. Bring a high quality to it while balancing graal with our real lives. And yet all you do is rant here about me and Carlito. Yet you base everything you know about me, off the picture you have of Carlito. I am not him. And I am not here to talk about him. I do what I do for zone and the staff appreciates it. The reason up there is why I haven't hired you back. I should have wiped you, but hey I didn't. Abuse is a no go and staff knows it. We recently had another one who was let go for good. So instead of disrespecting me constantly, how about you write down what you would like to change and we bring it into zone chat. Like we do with so many other ideas.


Edit: Someone asked me why we kept the items InGame he added to himself. We didn't. We tracked down every Zone coin and item he added and removed them  

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