My bow "perk" thread. Yes, no, comments?

Kendama · 12-01-2012

In classic, we are presented with a classic bow. It is a useful tool and adds, in my opinion, more dynamic combat the in player killing.
I am a strong believer in NO Pay to win or unfair advantages.
However, games such as call of duty, and even the recent halo, have perks that give a player customization to make them more "unique" and feel more as if they are playing their own person instead of a set person.

Imagine the bow, a simple device, to be tweaked into a few different similar types. No drastic changes, but bows that alter operation slightly to give players a sence of combat customization.

Bow: Average, standard bow.
Rate of fire: Medium
Arrow travel speed: Medium

ShortBow: Bow aimed for close combat use.
Rate of fire: Fast
Arrow travel speed: Slow

LongBow: Bow aimed for long distance combat.
Rate of fire: Slow
Arrow travel speed: Fast

Crossbow: Bow aimed for firing on the go.
Rate of fire: Slow
Arrow travel speed: Medium
Bonus: Can be fired while walking or on horseback. Does not interfere with player movement.

These would be standard bows that would be sold for reasonable prices in a place such as MoD or Yorktown, as they both represent war.

There should optionally also be novelty special bows, harder to earn, and considered somewhat rare. Graal, could sell them for expensive if they wish to although i discourage that. They still aren't offering much advantage, just different strategies. They would have to remain equal in power with the regular bows. Imagine-

CombustionBow: Bow with combustible coated arrows.
Rate of fire: Slow
Arrow travel speed: Medium
Bonus: Arrows that catch on fire through explosions have larger blast radius', or the explosion lingers longer.

IceBow Bow with magical freezing arrows.
Rate of fire: Very Slow
Arrow Travel speed: Slow
Bonus: Arrows that hit opponents cause damage and freeze the target in place, identical to snowball freezes.

HealingBow: Bow with magical healing properties.
Rate of fire: Slow
Arrow Travel speed: Slow
Bonus: Arrows will heal whoever they strike by 1 heart. Friend or Foe.

HeavyBow: Bow with a powerful blow and piercing arrows.
Rate of fire: Extreemly slow
Arrow Travel speed: Fast
Bonus: Arrows are not affected by shields.

Thats all i got. I thought of some more but deemed them unworthy or unfair and deleted them. I am sorry for not adding pictures as i was planning on roughly editing bow designs to make this look more official and professional. i however have switched to a mac and haven't even played around with graphic software yet. Please, add more ideas if you wish or tell me whats good or bad about this whole concept. Please dont tell me this is for another server or such, thats not the RPG idea im looking for but for a few perks that can differentiate players in combat. Such as guilds taking forts, i can imagine people trying to become symbolized by their bow or using them in conjunction for strategy. (aka longbow and combustion bow for support, shortbows and crossbows for assault. Healing bow and ice bow for defense.

fsh · 12-01-2012

too much work for staff it will never happen.

Kendama · 12-01-2012

Mabye everything i posted together, yes. But staff can nit-pick at things. I would get happy to see a shop with a longbow/shortbow alone. That would be very cool and not much work. Chance graphics, copy alter some files, set up a shop, done.

iWarp · 12-01-2012

not a bad idea but people will sook because arrow is not pk and all that just because they misunderstand that if they just want combat with sword ,they should go to the battle arena

Devlin · 12-01-2012

Go play the zodiac server. Make yourself a scout or a ranger. Have all the fun with bows and stealth-ing that you wish. Pew!

Higbey · 12-01-2012

We still can't use our shields to block more than arrows we face while still.

I doubt we will get much of a revamp in combat if such a basic and necessary element as being able to block with a shield is considered too much.

LiA · 12-01-2012

I voted Yes because I really think the bows should get an upgrade like how the bombs are. But I don't really see a point in the Ice or Fire bow ideas. People would just abuse, & spam their arrows like crazy, freezing everyone else. The fire one is basically already the bow w/ a bomb(I think). And too much abuse of the bows will probably lead to Classic setting limits to how many times you can fire your arrow(like 30 seconds), and it's just ruin the fun..I'm so negative xD.

Kendama · 12-01-2012

Posted by LiA

I voted Yes because I really think the bows should get an upgrade like how the bombs are. But I don't really see a point in the Ice or Fire bow ideas. People would just abuse, & spam their arrows like crazy, freezing everyone else. The fire one is basically already the bow w/ a bomb(I think). And too much abuse of the bows will probably lead to Classic setting limits to how many times you can fire your arrow(like 30 seconds), and it's just ruin the fun..I'm so negative xD.

Well the fire (combustion bow) in my idea was, like the regular arrows, it catches on fire. It just has a bigger explosion (mabye like special bombs do) or the explosions are a tile longer on all sides, or somthing like this. A small extra punch in the explosion, no extra damage or anything. The trade off would be its slow and not as fast as the regular bow, meaning it would only excel against other bows if it catches an explosion.

The ice bow i see could mabye possibly be a little unfair, but the trade off would be its rate of fire would be super slow meaning one every many seconds, like 5-10.

Both of these bows would be traded off, since they have extra powers, their rate of fire keeps them from effectively "spamming them".

But yeah these extra bows werent the base of my idea, they are just some extra i choose to put in and see peoples input. Thank you for your input

twilit · 12-02-2012

*reads title*
no.

Nikita · 12-02-2012

Posted by twilit

*reads title*
no.

Admiral · 12-02-2012

Overall, no, its a good suggestion, but not for a game like Graal.

However, the crossbow idea sounds interesting, there should be a way you can fire arrows while your on your horse.

Kendama · 12-02-2012

Posted by Reece

Overall, no, its a good suggestion, but not for a game like Graal.

However, the crossbow idea sounds interesting, there should be a way you can fire arrows while your on your horse.

Thanks for your input. Yeah, horseback archery was a common practice back in the day, so if it was implemented on graal aswell it would be pretty neat.

meganey98 · 12-07-2012

Bowowow: Bowowowowowowow
Rate of fire: Bowowow
Arrow Travel speed: Bowowow
Bonus: Bowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow

If you need a help with translating Bow's language, go ask Bow!

CHAOS* · 12-07-2012

Good idea, though i doubt staff will consider it. I do really like the idea of being able to shoot on your horse though.

Pazx · 12-08-2012

Posted by meganey98

Bowowow: Bowowowowowowow
Rate of fire: Bowowow
Arrow Travel speed: Bowowow
Bonus: Bowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow

If you need a help with translating Bow's language, go ask Bow!

Poll Results: Good idea for bow "perks"?
53.85%	Yes
30.77%	No
15.38%	Yes to the concept. No to my examples.
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Kendama Delteria Manager Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 2,474	My bow "perk" thread. Yes, no, comments? In classic, we are presented with a classic bow. It is a useful tool and adds, in my opinion, more dynamic combat the in player killing. I am a strong believer in NO Pay to win or unfair advantages. However, games such as call of duty, and even the recent halo, have perks that give a player customization to make them more "unique" and feel more as if they are playing their own person instead of a set person. Imagine the bow, a simple device, to be tweaked into a few different similar types. No drastic changes, but bows that alter operation slightly to give players a sence of combat customization. Bow: Average, standard bow. Rate of fire: Medium Arrow travel speed: Medium ShortBow: Bow aimed for close combat use. Rate of fire: Fast Arrow travel speed: Slow LongBow: Bow aimed for long distance combat. Rate of fire: Slow Arrow travel speed: Fast Crossbow: Bow aimed for firing on the go. Rate of fire: Slow Arrow travel speed: Medium Bonus: Can be fired while walking or on horseback. Does not interfere with player movement. These would be standard bows that would be sold for reasonable prices in a place such as MoD or Yorktown, as they both represent war. There should optionally also be novelty special bows, harder to earn, and considered somewhat rare. Graal, could sell them for expensive if they wish to although i discourage that. They still aren't offering much advantage, just different strategies. They would have to remain equal in power with the regular bows. Imagine- CombustionBow: Bow with combustible coated arrows. Rate of fire: Slow Arrow travel speed: Medium Bonus: Arrows that catch on fire through explosions have larger blast radius', or the explosion lingers longer. IceBow Bow with magical freezing arrows. Rate of fire: Very Slow Arrow Travel speed: Slow Bonus: Arrows that hit opponents cause damage and freeze the target in place, identical to snowball freezes. HealingBow: Bow with magical healing properties. Rate of fire: Slow Arrow Travel speed: Slow Bonus: Arrows will heal whoever they strike by 1 heart. Friend or Foe. HeavyBow: Bow with a powerful blow and piercing arrows. Rate of fire: Extreemly slow Arrow Travel speed: Fast Bonus: Arrows are not affected by shields. Thats all i got. I thought of some more but deemed them unworthy or unfair and deleted them. I am sorry for not adding pictures as i was planning on roughly editing bow designs to make this look more official and professional. i however have switched to a mac and haven't even played around with graphic software yet. Please, add more ideas if you wish or tell me whats good or bad about this whole concept. Please dont tell me this is for another server or such, thats not the RPG idea im looking for but for a few perks that can differentiate players in combat. Such as guilds taking forts, i can imagine people trying to become symbolized by their bow or using them in conjunction for strategy. (aka longbow and combustion bow for support, shortbows and crossbows for assault. Healing bow and ice bow for defense.

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fsh floating on Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: GraalOnline Zone Posts: 3,422	too much work for staff it will never happen.

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iWarp Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 296	not a bad idea but people will sook because arrow is not pk and all that just because they misunderstand that if they just want combat with sword ,they should go to the battle arena

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Devlin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 280	Go play the zodiac server. Make yourself a scout or a ranger. Have all the fun with bows and stealth-ing that you wish. Pew!

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	We still can't use our shields to block more than arrows we face while still. I doubt we will get much of a revamp in combat if such a basic and necessary element as being able to block with a shield is considered too much.

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LiA (Sage) Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 886	I voted Yes because I really think the bows should get an upgrade like how the bombs are. But I don't really see a point in the Ice or Fire bow ideas. People would just abuse, & spam their arrows like crazy, freezing everyone else. The fire one is basically already the bow w/ a bomb(I think). And too much abuse of the bows will probably lead to Classic setting limits to how many times you can fire your arrow(like 30 seconds), and it's just ruin the fun..I'm so negative xD.

12-02-2012	9
twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	reads title no.

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Admiral Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,911	Overall, no, its a good suggestion, but not for a game like Graal. However, the crossbow idea sounds interesting, there should be a way you can fire arrows while your on your horse.

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meganey98 Megan (Providence) Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States Posts: 863	Bowowow: Bowowowowowowow Rate of fire: Bowowow Arrow Travel speed: Bowowow Bonus: Bowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow If you need a help with translating Bow's language, go ask Bow!

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CHAOS* Swaggin Out in my Zone Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 884	Good idea, though i doubt staff will consider it. I do really like the idea of being able to shoot on your horse though.