Posted by Thallen

I've led 5 1k guilds and won 9 GSTs. My longest 1k guild took ~40ish days. The GST is every 90 days.

On top of that, you're guaranteed to hit 1k if you just stay at it. You can enter the GST 20 times and still not win through persistence and effort. Ask Prime. Even when you do win the GST, 7 people get the hat and 25 people get a 1k hat.

Well look at it like this.
GST is an extra thing you can do with a few members of your guild.
It takes a day to actually be there and win.
The hat you'll receive is rarer since there's a lower amount given away.

It devalues 1k hats since you have to spend those (according to you) 40 days for a custom hat for 25 players and in a gst it only takes one day of participating for a chance of getting a rarer hat already.
So yeah, I don't think it's fair if gst hats would be fully custom made by the guild as it's an extra thing.

That's just my opinion, there's no real point in discussing it further  

Posted by iBubble

It devalues 1k hats since you have to spend those (according to you) 40 days for a custom hat for 25 players and in a gst it only takes one day of participating for a chance of getting a rarer hat already.

If you think all that's required to win a GST is to log on for 1 day and spar, you are mistaken
That's like the equivalent of saying all you have to do to hit 1k is to hold the tower for 1 hour at 999 hours  

so is this can't or won't?  

I voted NO because I will never win one.  

Posted by GOAT

I voted NO because I will never win one.

No you're a 1337 sparrer now remember? You got this  

Posted by iBubble

Well look at it like this.
GST is an extra thing you can do with a few members of your guild.
It takes a day to actually be there and win.
The hat you'll receive is rarer since there's a lower amount given away.

It devalues 1k hats since you have to spend those (according to you) 40 days for a custom hat for 25 players and in a gst it only takes one day of participating for a chance of getting a rarer hat already.
So yeah, I don't think it's fair if gst hats would be fully custom made by the guild as it's an extra thing.

That's just my opinion, there's no real point in discussing it further

There's the fact that you're guaranteed 25 people will be given a hat after 40 days of towering, meanwhile entering GST you have a 1 in 32 or 64 chance(without taking in account "skill level", team practice, etc) to win GST.  

The work gone into earning a gst is MUCH more than the effort in hitting a pole for 1000 hours  

If you knew the amount of work we put into guild sparring... But you clearly don't. I'm sure practicing almost everynight is nothing all you do is sit at a tower.  

Basically. Being able to win a tournament where every one of the best players is participating is much harder, the prize should be much better. You're right in saying theres no point in discussing it further with you because you clearly don't understand how much more challenging it is to win a GST.  

damn ding

yes tho GST is much harder as most guilds babysit all day and face NO ONE when gst competitors are facing sparrers most likely after round 3) Who have full experience.  

I'm sure more sparrers could get 1k than towerers could win gst.  

Also from someone who has towered before, in a 5k/10k.

Even the extended hours past 1k included, GST is much harder. Usually now when a tower guild goes for 1k, they make alliances with all of the other "major" guilds, and they agree never to attack each other and just sit and hold the tower for 1k straight. 80% of the time they'll probably be dealing with 1-3 pkers in their tower, held off by 14+ members roughly. That honestly does not sound difficult at all, even objectively. It just sounds like a reward for how many hours spent in a certain level.  

People don't seem to understand that you're getting 6 hats tailored to you by the graphics team for every GST. I don't think you guys know how time consuming making those hats are, and now you expect us to do edits to them? You get to see the hats before you sign up so you know what you're going to be playing for. If you don't like the hats then don't sign up.

If you guys think 1K is easier then why don't you just stick to 1k hats instead so you get exactly what you want?  

Not sure why this is even a discussion. You all may say that GST is much harder than towering, but you can't compare those things because they are entirely separate. Towering's easy if you play the system, join all the other 'pro' towerers and keep getting 1k repeatedly, or even 5k-10k. Of course it's not that difficult then, just time consuming. From someone who had to build his own guild from the start and get it to 1k, I never joined the already-considered 'pro' guilds just to wait until they get 1k and then start my own guild and have everyone transfer over. Me and Gold towered ourselves vs. everyone and I can tell you it's difficult as hell. GST could be easy to win if you're faces vs. bad teams at the beginning, then someone goes offline & your opposing team has only 4 players when you're in the semi-finals, etc. The system can be played. I'm not saying it's easy to win the GST for all those emotionally rampaged people seeing this and are now outraged. I'm simply saying you can't even compare sparring in the GST to towering. A 1k prize is a custom hat. If you make the GST prize a custom hat, then there's no difference. It wouldn't be special at all. The specialty comes from it being one of a few options of hats that can only be added to the game if chosen and won by your guild. The last thing we need is more "custom-made" (because they're all just copies/edits) of anbu masks. Maybe the GST prize needs to be altogether changed; I don't know. However, making it a custom hat is beyond stupid and personally, that devalues the GST prize more than receiving a pre-made hat.  

From someone who has won a GST twice now, me and my VIS bros had to vs. Alumni(CRZ) Silver Rebellious and Sarah's team in one tournament and I can tell you that it is difficult as hell.
system played?