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100 hp makes guns no more viable than they currently are. 100hp just causes it to take longer to kill a person no matter what weapon you use. melees will still be able to kill faster. The way that guns are going to become the more prevalent weapons is having higher damage. |
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where are u getting ur facts i never spammed staff to get it back to 50 health i simply told alpho to change it back u guys also dont know your in the minority alot of people dont want that lol |
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Low freeze, higher fire rate = more damage done. So, it's kind of the damage, but not.. but is. Maybe I'm just dumb? Your point still stands though. I'm just attempting to argue a rather mute point out of boredom. But, you know, what are they to do? The game's so cluttered with guns, if they were to nerf one, they'd have to nerf another, then another, then another, in hopes of attaining balance between them all. |
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The rest, I won't comment on. The melees are a bit strong, but, dang, do you know how much life it takes for someone to amass all of those GP? AFKing for a large portion of it or not, I don't see how some people do it. Isn't the rate 1 point a minute? So, 60 points in an hour? The melees cost, what, 20k? What's the math on that.. 333.33 hours for 20k points? 13.88 days of someone's life spent on Ol' West, basing. That's ridiculous. The melees should be strong, for that. But, still, like I said, balance is needed. That's obviously a tall order though, considering none of the servers have mastered it, or even gotten a real firm handle on it. |
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Talking in terms of sparring. If you have a high damage gun that shoots slow and you aren't good enough to time shots or shoot accurately making your bullets hard to dodge, your high damage is worthless. If you have guns with low freeze and high firing rate as era has become known for, all you have to do is take a bottom position and box spam the opponent as long as you have a decent understanding of how to counter move. to me (and this is why i quit era) this takes out all the fun and skill of combat. where i think era went wrong, and is unfortunately too far down the road to really fix, is the gap between different types of weapons to accommodate different play styles and skill sets. guns that have low freeze an fast firing rates should be held way back in the damage category making spamming work but you wont kill people super quickly with it. guns that have slow firing rates and lots of freeze will have significantly higher damage making it a more skill rewarding weapon. now era does have difference but not nearly enough. 2 damage difference between a machine gun and a sniper is not nearly enough to give the sniper any kind of chance at being a competitive weapon. |
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No it really isnt hard just afk lol switch gangs and you will get it ez see how many people have you seen how many people have gp staffs it definitely shouodnt be of that power |
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Like I believe I said before, it'd take me a few months to get that much, even slightly committing to it. I say slightly, because, well, to be honest, my basing/pking days are behind me. It's just not that appealing to me anymore. Also, I just don't have that many hours to pour into the game on a daily basis, real life obligations, and, really, I have other things I'd rather do with my free time.. both on Graal as well as elsewhere. So, for someone like me, yeah, that melee better be the bee's knees. No worries though, as I doubt I'll ever see that many GP. But, who knows, maybe someone, some thing will come along and reignite that spark, fuel the bloodlust? Yeah, I've seen and, no offense, but those people either no-lifed or, much like I'd have to, inched their way to it over the course of a couplefew months. I get where you're coming from, I do. Being killed by those suckers has left a salty taste in my mouth too, it has. "How the f*** did they kill me so fast?" But, then, I think about how much time they spent on it, and say, well.. I guess. Now, a slight nerf may be in order, but I think they maintain the right to be a little OP, just a bit. |
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Then I'd say increase to 100 HP, as well as gun damage, leaving the melees with the same damage. Would be nice to test it out, might hop on for once if it's tested.
Last edited by Shiz; 11-03-2015 at 10:52 PM.
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I can't say I see any wrong in what you've said, Slick. I agree completely. Though, I wish I could add to it a bit, as you seemed to have poured a lot of yourself into that response. But, I think you got a little more than the jist of it there. XD I will say that you're right, falling in line with the question I posed before, what are they to do about it now? Like I implied and as you said, the game's too far along. They'd have to go in and tweak every single weapon, differentiating between not only the gaps based on, like you said, different styles of play, but also, for lack of better wording, price gaps. I imagine that'd be quite the task, though, admittedly, I don't know crap about any of what goes into all that. Safe assumption though? More than that, I get the feeling a lot of players would be upset by it. A case of not what's wanted, at least not by all, but what is needed. Shame. Ha, one more thing, you mentioned that it's all created an environment where the bridge between pros and noobs ever shrinks, right? On top of that, it's also made Era somewhat of an annoying place to live, at times. Some days, I just want to roam the streets without having to wave through a sea of bullets. I just want to chill, guys. I get that pking is part of the game, a huge part, but.. jeez. Anyway.. thanks again. Very appreciated response. |