Has Era surpassed Classic? - 4

Summertime Love · 08-10-2014

Posted by Craftz1

Didn't the wii sell more than the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3?

Individually, yes. Combined? No.

Craftz · 08-10-2014

Posted by Summertime Love

Individually, yes. Combined? No.

Ya ya that's what I meant.

Godoco · 08-10-2014

Posted by kenovo

i guess zone is the wii

creators of Wii and Zone still make a lot of money lol

iHot · 08-10-2014

Posted by Kendama

Pretty sure eurocenter had like all these other apps on the app store before era

Well in terms of iGraal games. They do have a bunch of other apps which I don't think many play. Except Tarot Online.

Ghettoicedtea · 08-11-2014

eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves

MrSimons · 08-11-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves

Because it doesn't deserve attention? Its a server still in development with a playercount average of 600.

Shurikan · 08-11-2014

Posted by Summertime Love

Every since the launch of Era, EUROCENTER's second installment of the GraalOnline game series, Era's population per day has been increasing while Classic's been growing as well, but growing at a much slower rate.
My question is: Has Era surpassed Classic by popularity(and quality?)
Edit:I'm not flamebaiting guys ;~; I genuinely love both games equally and keep it cute

Definitely not quality (if you are referring to the graphics.) iClassic has done lots of work on their graphics and they almost all have a theme now. iEra does not have a theme and its graphics don't have the quality of iClassics.

Godoco · 08-12-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves

because of half of it's staff

Ghettoicedtea · 08-13-2014

Posted by MrSimons

Because it doesn't deserve attention? Its a server still in development with a playercount average of 600.

bs excuse, when era was in devolpment it had 600 players and that was within what, 6 months.

Kendama · 08-13-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves

Ok.. well, what is your definition of "owning"? You are saying you need to either be MLG or have a bar to "own". By "own" are you referring to killing much more players than you die? And so you are saying the only people who are great at killing are the people who are the most skilled and have the best weapon?

Well no ****. Do you want it so everybody can "own" together? Because that is the most illogical thing ever. The best players will "own" the most and the players that are not as good/equipped as good as the competition will not own. Don't understand how you could complain about that because the is the premise of nearly every game I have played. Solitaire, Halo, CoD, BF4, Bejeweled, Mario, Pac-man, Titanfall, Zelda, ect.

Any player can get kills on era, sure it can be hard for the underequiped noobs, but "owning" in a video game is not supposed to be a guaranteed thing. It is supposed to be something you can only pull of if you are really lucky, skilled, or prepared. (in other words, this MLG pro you speak of)

Ghettoicedtea · 08-13-2014

Posted by Kendama

Ok.. well, what is your definition of "owning"? You are saying you need to either be MLG or have a bar to "own". By "own" are you referring to killing much more players than you die? And so you are saying the only people who are great at killing are the people who are the most skilled and have the best weapon?

Well no ****. Do you want it so everybody can "own" together? Because that is the most illogical thing ever. The best players will "own" the most and the players that are not as good/equipped as good as the competition will not own. Don't understand how you could complain about that because the is the premise of nearly every game I have played. Solitaire, Halo, CoD, BF4, Bejeweled, Mario, Pac-man, Titanfall, Zelda, ect.

Any player can get kills on era, sure it can be hard for the underequiped noobs, but "owning" in a video game is not supposed to be a guaranteed thing. It is supposed to be something you can only pull of if you are really lucky, skilled, or prepared. (in other words, this MLG pro you speak of)

by owning i mean have such a massive advantage over someone and theoretically if you were to go toe to toe with them, you will lose by a landslide.

Kendama · 08-13-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

by owning i mean have such a massive advantage over someone and theoretically if you were to go toe to toe with them, you will lose by a landslide.

If anyone should get massive advantages, it should be these "MLG pros". I agree on the BAR and the natural premise of era, it is pay to win and irritating. However, there is no reason that pros dedicated to this game should not have a great advantage in a firefight. They obviously know how to fight better. Are you suggesting that the good players all be handicapped?

Jatz · 08-13-2014

This thread is laughable. Both servers are too different to compare, and are designed to cater to different types of players. Graphics-wise, I agree that Classic has a more coherent style, as would be expected when you look at their talented graphics team members.

As far as gameplay content goes, I think Classic has a better approach than we do at iEra in that their developers are encouraged to focus on quality over quantity. iEra has (in my opinion) fallen into a lapse of comfort in that many of our developers think that releases of new hats and holiday shops is content, and this is a cycle that some of us in the team are actively trying to break (see my quest projects, Era Countryside, etc). It is difficult however, due to the general lack of scripting ability. iEra currently has around about 4 developers who I would even consider "Good", bear in mind none of us (both iEra and, as far as I know, Classic staff) are paid for any work we do on a server, and therefore tend to prioritise our lives (work/university/life in general) over Graal.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that bear in mind that all of the staffmembers actively working to provide content are doing it 100% for free, out of the goodness of their heart, so you can't really expect the same quality and quantity as you would from a commercial game studio. That's an error caused by the entire business model that graal uses.

I agree with rufus that both servers could use improvements, and I believe that we, as developers should always be striving to make the game as fun as possible for players, but bear in mind we do have to prioritise other things over a volunteer "job".

MrSimons · 08-13-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

bs excuse, when era was in devolpment it had 600 players and that was within what, 6 months.

Yes, but its been over a year and zone still is in development with 600 players and no active coders or a decent dev team. There really is no question to why Zone isn't comparable to Era or Classic. I'm sure even Tashkin could agree with that. And if you honestly think it is you are ridiculously biased seeing as Zone is unable to cater to any large audience currently. It can't entertain pkers because Era has much better PvP perks and a wider variety of weapons. Nor can it cater to roleplayers because there isn't a single place on the server to roleplay that wasn't half-assed and shoved in a corner.

Not criticizing, but I'm not gonna make myself look like an idiot by saying Zone is a fantastic server with tons of fun things to do. Just saying its obviously under developed and has a ton of work to be done. I'm also not implying that the current staff are lazy or not talented, a good portion of staff there work their asses off trying to improve the server.

Tyler · 08-14-2014

Both of the games have their quirks, but I would have to say Classic. Era requires money for so many things whether it's repairing weapons, putting gas in your car, buying a weapon, revival potion, etc. The methods of earning money are more fun and in larger variety than Classic, but to cover all the things I just mentioned you would have to play a lot to earn all that money. Classic really only requires money for houses and your appearance which isn't a necessity. Furthermore, everyone is on the same playing field for weapons strength.

Not trying to mimic Gun Gale here, but if lightsabers were easier to obtain, I would definitely play more. I liked using swords on Era and lightsabers (if I remember correctly) being able to deflect bullets give a fighting chance against guns. Yet, they are only available to the players who spend a good quantity of their time playing/winning events. The playerbase on Era is pretty immature for another thing. I wouldn't want to make friends on there. Every time I go on people are rude and especially gassy when they kill you. Classic's isn't perfect either, but I mean come on.

Era and Classic both have sparring arenas, but I really think Era's is a joke. Being put in that small arena with bullets flying in all directions. Maybe that would be fun if players were only given a simple handgun like a magnum or something. Again, I haven't played in awhile so I'm going by what I remember. These are just some of my main concerns with Era. I'm not taking Classic's side as I could care less since I left it and only come back for occasional visits.

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Ghettoicedtea (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞ dank meme ☚(ﾟヮﾟ☚) Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 5,261	eras quality is crap compared to classic. Gameplay on era is crap due to you either have to be MLG pro or buy a bar to own. My question is, why does zone not get the attention it deserves

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Jatz Software Engineer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 787	This thread is laughable. Both servers are too different to compare, and are designed to cater to different types of players. Graphics-wise, I agree that Classic has a more coherent style, as would be expected when you look at their talented graphics team members. As far as gameplay content goes, I think Classic has a better approach than we do at iEra in that their developers are encouraged to focus on quality over quantity. iEra has (in my opinion) fallen into a lapse of comfort in that many of our developers think that releases of new hats and holiday shops is content, and this is a cycle that some of us in the team are actively trying to break (see my quest projects, Era Countryside, etc). It is difficult however, due to the general lack of scripting ability. iEra currently has around about 4 developers who I would even consider "Good", bear in mind none of us (both iEra and, as far as I know, Classic staff) are paid for any work we do on a server, and therefore tend to prioritise our lives (work/university/life in general) over Graal. I guess what I'm trying to say is that bear in mind that all of the staffmembers actively working to provide content are doing it 100% for free, out of the goodness of their heart, so you can't really expect the same quality and quantity as you would from a commercial game studio. That's an error caused by the entire business model that graal uses. I agree with rufus that both servers could use improvements, and I believe that we, as developers should always be striving to make the game as fun as possible for players, but bear in mind we do have to prioritise other things over a volunteer "job".

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	Both of the games have their quirks, but I would have to say Classic. Era requires money for so many things whether it's repairing weapons, putting gas in your car, buying a weapon, revival potion, etc. The methods of earning money are more fun and in larger variety than Classic, but to cover all the things I just mentioned you would have to play a lot to earn all that money. Classic really only requires money for houses and your appearance which isn't a necessity. Furthermore, everyone is on the same playing field for weapons strength. Not trying to mimic Gun Gale here, but if lightsabers were easier to obtain, I would definitely play more. I liked using swords on Era and lightsabers (if I remember correctly) being able to deflect bullets give a fighting chance against guns. Yet, they are only available to the players who spend a good quantity of their time playing/winning events. The playerbase on Era is pretty immature for another thing. I wouldn't want to make friends on there. Every time I go on people are rude and especially gassy when they kill you. Classic's isn't perfect either, but I mean come on. Era and Classic both have sparring arenas, but I really think Era's is a joke. Being put in that small arena with bullets flying in all directions. Maybe that would be fun if players were only given a simple handgun like a magnum or something. Again, I haven't played in awhile so I'm going by what I remember. These are just some of my main concerns with Era. I'm not taking Classic's side as I could care less since I left it and only come back for occasional visits.