Posted by Sig.

You're acting like this is a fact. It's neither maths nor physics, it's philosophy which isn't as black/white as you make it look like.

sure, care to explain how im wrong?  

Posted by Crono

never proven to begin with so...



burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion, so if you come at me with horse**** you're not automatically on the same level (as far as arguments go) because "lul cnt be proven or disproven!!!!", you're infact losing.

Sheesh, I'm definitely not religious but you don't have to stomp on other people's beliefs.

Would rep-- if I could  

Posted by Crono

never proven to begin with so...

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I stated this in MY post and made sure too because this is a typical response, I can go into a million disscussion with people about my beilef but at the end of the day its up to me and me only which i choose to beileve in. Lemme break it down to you in simplest form a religion is a beilef. I'm not gonna argue with people like most in my religion do i'm not like that I'm not perfect I respect what other beileve and hope they can respect what i beileve period. I'm not loosing anything, in my religion The fight was already won and to add on to that there is no fight if its a beilef I strongly beileve in, nothing is going to change that. My religion dosn't change the fact I'm like anyone else on this earth.  

Posted by Crono

burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion, so if you come at me with horse**** you're not automatically on the same level (as far as arguments go) because "lul cnt be proven or disproven!!!!", you're infact losing.

no it doesn't. Science theorizes all kinds of things without any actual proof. That doesn't mean it's fact, but no one says it is to begin with. It's just a plausible explanation to something that cannot be proven - ever. Religion is the exact same thing. It's impossible to prove or disprove, and no one really cares to do that anyways. It's something you believe.

He was just saying that you can't disprove his religious beliefs and that this study actually didn't disprove it. It's not like he said you're wrong because his religion is fact, nor did he try to force his religion on anyone. Not too sure why you got irritated by his post.  

Posted by PigParty

Science theorizes all kinds of things.

Not only that but this is the literal definition of science

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

 

Posted by Crono

sure, care to explain how im wrong?

Not really saying that you're wrong - just pointing out that there is no "correct" answer. I could use the argumentum ad ignorantiam to say my claim is true because it hasn't been proved false  

Posted by PigParty

Religion is the exact same thing. It's impossible to prove or disprove, and no one really cares to do that anyways.

It is possible to disprove religions through finding faults in their scriptures. If the scriptures are corrupted then the religion has no foundation.  

Posted by Hadi

It is possible to disprove religions through finding faults in their scriptures. If the scriptures are corrupted then the religion has no foundation.

that still doesn't disprove religion because religion is a belief. I can't disprove someone's belief that humans evolved from monkeys, even though there are a ton of discrepancies and faults in that theory.  

Posted by PigParty

that still doesn't disprove religion because religion is a belief. I can't disprove someone's belief that humans evolved from monkeys, even though there are a ton of discrepancies and faults in that theory.

Evolution theory

And it doesn't really have a ton of faults, it basically says that within time and through isolation and mutation, species differ (or evolve) in order to survive. And this kind of applies, bacteria can adapt and grow a significant resistance against antibiotics e.g.  

Posted by Sig.

Evolution theory

And it doesn't really have a ton of faults, it basically says that within time and through isolation and mutation, species differ (or evolve) in order to survive. And this kind of applies, bacteria can adapt and grow a significant resistance against antibiotics e.g.

I said it was a theory in my post. That was literally the last word in my post.

Yes, there's lots of faults you can find. Why aren't monkeys evolving right now and becoming humans? Why do monkeys still exist at all if they needed to evolve into humans to survive? There's a lot of problems you can point out with that theory. It doesn't disprove it, though, which is exactly the point I was making to begin with.  

Posted by PigParty

I said it was a theory in my post. That was literally the last word in my post.

Yes, there's lots of faults you can find. Why aren't monkeys evolving right now and becoming humans? Why do monkeys still exist at all if they needed to evolve into humans to survive? There's a lot of problems you can point out with that theory. It doesn't disprove it, though, which is exactly the point I was making to begin with.

Not monkeys but hominidae which are actually only 3 kinds of monkeys besides the homo sapiens. If I recall correctly, the homo sapiens had its origin somewhere in Africa. You have to consider different circumstances:
- raft tectonics; where did Africa use to be throughout the evolution process?
- potential eating enemies; that perhaps run extinct?
- did some event happen to "activiate" the evolution?
They also could be spread around the whole world, location A could have less food avaible than location B so that only hominidae A would have to evolve to survive.

I'm not a fan of the evolution theory either but my bacteria example does support it.  

Posted by PigParty

that still doesn't disprove religion because religion is a belief. I can't disprove someone's belief that humans evolved from monkeys, even though there are a ton of discrepancies and faults in that theory.

Not saying all religions, just saying ones that have corrupted scriptures. For example a religion that says god is all knowing and makes no mistakes yet in their scripture there are clear and many contradictions and scientific errors. This goes against the fact that god is all knowledgable etc. That's how you disprove a religion. Not saying any religion in particular, just stating how a religion can be disproven.  

Posted by Hadi

Not saying all religions, just saying ones that have corrupted scriptures. For example a religion that says god is all knowing and makes no mistakes yet in their scripture there are clear and many contradictions and scientific errors. This goes against the fact that god is all knowledgable etc. That's how you disprove a religion. Not saying any religion in particular, just stating how a religion can be disproven.

If you're referring to any scripture of any religion, it still can't be disproven though "science" comes into action. This is why I can't take everything in the Bible so literal, though most people forget that.

With Genesis, I can take the 6 days of creation and also combine it with the big bang theory. I'll be honest, rattling something up is the last thing I want. This is called an example folks.  

Posted by Dos

If you're referring to any scripture of any religion, it still can't be disproven though "science" comes into action. This is why I can't take everything in the Bible so literal, though most people forget that.

With Genesis, I can take the 6 days of creation and also combine it with the big bang theory. I'll be honest, rattling something up is the last thing I want. This is called an example folks.

I don't know why you're talking about science, I'm talking about contradictions.  

pluffy created the universe haha u cant disprove me xD!!