Posted by Motrox

Just making sure I still know how to make pixelart lol..
I've also just noticed that most people use a tablet at some point during the construction processes of larger pieces, something I've sturggled with since I've always used my mouse because I assume that is how everyone went about it.
I'll try to invest in a drawing tablet soon ,so I can get back into this.

You're not the only one. I absolutely HATE drawing on tablets. I've learned to be a marksman when it comes to mice thanks to that though.  

I love how you do ur palettes, even if its just a few colorful sketches. The colors r so vibrant.  

What do you mean... Tablet as in...device? Or graphics tablet?

The latter needs loads of time to get used to, took me 3 years to actually use tablets properly and being able to draw straight lines  

Posted by Motrox

Just making sure I still know how to make pixelart lol..
I've also just noticed that most people use a tablet at some point during the construction processes of larger pieces, something I've sturggled with since I've always used my mouse because I assume that is how everyone went about it.
I'll try to invest in a drawing tablet soon ,so I can get back into this.

The reason others use graphic tablets is because:

They digitaly draw what they are trying to make pixel art out of. Then they resize it or use other features to simply pixel art on top of their sketch. It's basically creating digital art and working backwards to the 16 bit era. I personally don't like the idea of using new age overkill tools for pixel art because if you're going to draw something as digital art, you might as well make digital art (like a painting) and ignore pixel art all together.

I prefer pixel art that is made as pixel art from the beginning simply to uphold some sort of nonexistent tradition, but then again... I will never know.  

I never draw digitally and resize

some do though, thats way too much work but whatever helps them accomplish their mission

I dont do anything with my mouse anymore because the pen pressure alone is worth it so much (even in pixelart)  

Posted by Elk

I never draw digitally and resize

some do though, thats way too much work but whatever helps them accomplish their mission

I dont do anything with my mouse anymore because the pen pressure alone is worth it so much (even in pixelart)

The harder you press the more depth your pixel art gains.
If you've ever wondered how isometrics are drawn, thats how.

They just press much harder than you could with a mouse.  

Posted by Elk

What do you mean... Tablet as in...device? Or graphics tablet?

The latter needs loads of time to get used to, took me 3 years to actually use tablets properly and being able to draw straight lines

I was referring to graphics tablets, but I've just realized that there are laptops that can generally do the same job. (Microsoft Surfacebook).
Though I don't know the the quality of its pen/on board tool set.

I wouldn't be really concerned with the details when using a graphics tablet. I'm looking more for a way to make general color blotches and shaping for large pieces, which I have a hard time doing with a mouse currently.

Posted by Devlin

The reason others use graphic tablets is because:

They digitaly draw what they are trying to make pixel art out of. Then they resize it or use other features to simply pixel art on top of their sketch. It's basically creating digital art and working backwards to the 16 bit era. I personally don't like the idea of using new age overkill tools for pixel art because if you're going to draw something as digital art, you might as well make digital art (like a painting) and ignore pixel art all together.

I prefer pixel art that is made as pixel art from the beginning simply to uphold some sort of nonexistent tradition, but then again... I will never know.

I find the use of a mouse for larger pieces unnatural and meticulous,and I see it as more of an obstacle than anything. I messed around with my friend's graphics tablet ,and I immediately noticed how easy I could very quickly and naturally create color blocks and shapes, which is what I intend to use it for. I would then leave the finer details to the mouse.
Pixelart made with the aid of a graphics tablet still falls under the domain of what is pixelart in my view,if pixel level detail is incorporated and purposeful.  

Posted by Motrox

I was referring to graphics tablets, but I've just realized that their are laptops that can generally do the same job. (Microsoft Surfacebook).
Though I don't the the quality of it's pen/ on board tool set.

I wouldn't be really concerned with the details when using a graphics tablet. I'm looking more for a way to make general color blotches and shaping for large pieces, which I have a hard time doing with a mouse currently.

I find the use of a mouse for larger pieces unnatural and meticulous,and I see it as more of an obstacle than anything. I messed around with my friend's graphics tablet ,and I immediately noticed how easy I could very quickly and naturally create color blocks and shapes, which is what I intend to use it for. I would leave the finer details to the mouse.
Pixelart made with the aid of a graphics tablet still falls under the domain of what is pixelart in my view,if pixel level detail is incorporated and purposeful.

>Pixel art
>Not concerned with details
>Mouse obstacle & unnatural for larger pieces
>Doesn't want to be meticulous
>easy & quick
>leave finer details until very end
Not pixel art.

If you're digitally painting for 90% of the process why even make pixel art? Stop wasting your time and continue to paint the finer details in.

>Blotches & shaping
Pencil tool, bump size up to 5-100

Pixel art will always be unnatural, detail oriented, and meticulous. A graphic tablet may only set you backwards as you will need to relearn to use your primary tool. In the end, it's a comfort thing, and if you've been using a mouse all this time it might be a better idea to invest in a better mouse & mouse pad. That is, for pixel art. If you want to do strictly painting oriented art, go for the tablet as its meant to aid natural medium artists transition to digital painting by offering the same *comfort as natural mediums.

tl;dr Once upon a time, an experienced caveman could chop down hundreds of trees a day with his trusty axe. He got a chainsaw and spent a couple days learning how to turn the darn thing on, after realizing that swinging just would't work. When he finally got it going, there was a possibility he would chop his own limbs off. In the end, he was better off with his trusty axe.  

Aside from that, a chainsaw would scare the animals!  

Posted by Devlin

>Pixel art
>Not concerned with details
>Mouse obstacle & unnatural for larger pieces
>Doesn't want to be meticulous
>easy & quick
>leave finer details until very end
Not pixel art.

I'm absolutely concerned with detail lol.
I just see that meticulosity has its place towards the latter part of a piece's creation, just as it does with every piece. With your definition, using a brush larger than 1x1 for pixel art would deem it beyond the bounds of what can be labeled as pixel art.

Posted by Devlin

>Blotches & shaping
Pencil tool, bump size up to 5-100

This is exactly what I have a problem with! The use of larger brushes on a mouse is just clunky.
I'm simply looking for a way to use larger brushes for a more dexterous way to begin larger pieces, and tablets offer that.
I see it as having more command over how your piece is structured from the get go, as opposed to the limiting nature of the way you can move a mouse.  

Posted by Motrox

I'm absolutely concerned with detail lol.
I just see that meticulosity has its place towards the latter part of a piece's creation, just as it does with every piece. With your definition, using a brush larger than 1x1 for pixel art would deem it beyond the bounds of what can be labeled as pixel art.


This is exactly what I have a problem with! The use of larger brushes on a mouse is just clunky.
I'm simply looking for a way to use larger brushes for a more dexterous way to begin larger pieces, and tablets offer that.
I see it as having more command over how your piece is structured from the get go, as opposed to the limiting nature of the way you can move a mouse.

Maybe if you get a small mouse, like a really really really really really small mouse and hold it with your pointer finger and thumb, you'd have more control you know.

I think I'm biased because I use a Logitech G502 and I've mapped my mouse keys to various tools and it's more convenient than moving back and forth between the tools window. I took all the weights out as I like light mice, and use the precision button to slow my DPI to a very precise speed to really work on the details.

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It also may depend on what program you're using, and for what you're using it for. I don't know about digital painting, though could recommend paint tool sai and artrage. Strictly pixel art speaking:
PC:
Aesprite. Needs no proof.

Photoshop. Overkill but sounds cool if you want to say 'Photoshop' or 'Overkill'. Also, I think Elk uses photoshop so if you want to draw like Elk or think saying "Elk uses Photoshop" sounds cool- this is for you.

Mac:
Pixen. Nice, everything you need to pixel art. No clutter, no gimmicks. Mac only. I use it the majority of the time.

Aesprite. It's better but my mouse has issues on a mac and am forced to use the MagicMouse when on my Mac, therefore try Pixen.  

Posted by Motrox

I'm absolutely concerned with detail lol.
I just see that meticulosity has its place towards the latter part of a piece's creation, just as it does with every piece. With your definition, using a brush larger than 1x1 for pixel art would deem it beyond the bounds of what can be labeled as pixel art.


This is exactly what I have a problem with! The use of larger brushes on a mouse is just clunky.
I'm simply looking for a way to use larger brushes for a more dexterous way to begin larger pieces, and tablets offer that.
I see it as having more command over how your piece is structured from the get go, as opposed to the limiting nature of the way you can move a mouse.

ArtStudio for iPad ftw!  

Posted by Ivy

ArtStudio for iPad ftw!

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Posted by Devlin

cringecringecringe

How is that in any way cringy?? tf?  

Posted by Vicipower

How is that in any way cringy?? tf?

^^^ this
Vici is literally a master at it ;_;