Posted by GotenGraal

They were also talking on purpose in front of door which was extending there time. I think someone got Male on video clearly doing it and it was taking hits forever to recognize on him. I also know that Hikaru wasn't doing the emotes, he was just straight up chat blocking.

I hate to break it to you, but typing or doing emoticon does not effect how long you blink. Not in any way.

Do you know what "chat blocking" is? Chat blocking was when you could infinitely hold down the Tab key on your keyboard to effectively tab in and out of the chat field on PC Graal, which would drop your framerate horribly (thus extending the time you're able to block).

That has been disabled forever. Chatting and doing emoticons does absolutely nothing, half of the people who got banned don't even know what this "chat blocking" is. They have literally never even towered.

But again, some admin who was pressured enough by countless (stupid) reports from a guild of interest ended up banning these players. So, this is another example of what I mean.  

Posted by Thallen

Okay.

Pidgin history screenshot of me talking to a guildmate, just to show you that we literally have to strategize against admins:


And here's the Gyazo link:
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Similar story: Aran, Ramone, Exalt*, and myself were defending Swamp fort from Vintage. We were all on a subtag slashing at the entrance and literally killing everyone before they even got into the water. On screen, Aster starts threatening to send us a warning for "boosting." ?!?!?! Boosting because you're running into our swords as we strategically defend a fort? This all occurred right before Envy turned into The Invisible Woman and helped her guild steal the fort from us.

After they took it, we go in to attack and they are doing the exaaact same thing that Aster had just threatened to warn us for.

Aster didn't threaten I was the one that said in overhead that it's like boosting fyi. As far as the bans go, I'm pretty sure that the only time I know of your members being banned was the night Rebel was attacking you. As far as I know Aster not Envy have nothing to do with any bans anyone has received for anyone whom had been banned for towering involving Vintage. In fact I'm fairly sure. If people are banned they're doing something they shouldn't, all of this can be looked into if the staff is wrongdoing, I'd recommend [email protected] if you disagree.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

Aster didn't threaten I was the one that said in overhead that it's like boosting fyi. As far as the bans go, I'm pretty sure that the only time I know of your members being banned was the night Rebel was attacking you. As far as I know Aster not Envy have nothing to do with any bans anyone has received for anyone whom had been banned for towering involving Vintage. In fact I'm fairly sure. If people are banned they're doing something they shouldn't, all of this can be looked into if the staff is wrongdoing, I'd recommend [email protected] if you disagree.

Nice try to deflect, but would you care to comment on Envy's continuous abuse to get your guild towers? Are Abel, Eldon, and I just making this up? Why do Aster and Envy continue to do this stuff?

How come a member of your guild spammed everyone in my guild with PMs when we were defending a tower? He even said "GOGOGOGO" on screen, confirming that he was finished spamming us and you guys all charged in (including Aster and Envy).
http://gyazo.com/7542c9c79f51d4350c9b4d2c5805cd70.png (Unsupported image host)

Every single member of my guild reported this guy, and I even PMed Envy about it, but nothing was done. If I had done something stupid like that, I would be banned within 5 minutes. Why? Well, because your guild has admins who love to play at towers.

This is the leader of Vintage, if anyone is curious.  

Posted by Thallen

I hate to break it to you, but typing or doing emoticon does not effect how long you blink. Not in any way.

Do you know what "chat blocking" is? Chat blocking was when you could infinitely hold down the Tab key on your keyboard to effectively tab in and out of the chat field on PC Graal, which would drop your framerate horribly (thus extending the time you're able to block).

That has been disabled forever. Chatting and doing emoticons does absolutely nothing, half of the people who got banned don't even know what this "chat blocking" is. They have literally never even towered.

But again, some admin who was pressured enough by countless (stupid) reports from a guild of interest ended up banning these players. So, this is another example of what I mean.

We tested chat blocking for the hell of it. Everything from searching in your menu, guild chat, and overhead makes you 2 times as hard to kill. We tried it several times and each time both started with full health and one stood standing with 1.5, if done consistently it's not fair game play.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

We tested chat blocking for the hell of it. Everything from searching in your menu, guild chat, and overhead makes you 2 times as hard to kill. We tried it several times and each time both started with full health and one stood standing with 1.5, if done consistently it's not fair game play.

You can do Graal science projects all day and you're not going to be able to convince me that typing "EZ" and hitting Ctrl+A extends your blink, sorry. I have a brain, I know the mechanics of Graal, and I know what FPS is. If doing emoticons drops your FPS then you're using a soda can as a video card or something, I don't even know what to tell you. Opening menus does drop my FPS, and I'm assuming that's how people have "lagblocked" against us before.

Quit replying to mostly-irrelevant parts of the thread and acknowledge the parts where Envy is abusing to get your guild fort hours.  

Read all 4 pages even though I knew this was all about Vintage. If I may add, I do recall that they have warped some guild members just so they're low and easy to take.  

Posted by Striken

Read all 4 pages even though I knew this was all about Vintage. If I may add, I do recall that they have warped some guild members just so they're low and easy to take.

Of course, that's almost old news. They do it so often that it's almost a part of the game itself, I don't even complain about it anymore. I actually accept it as a part of Graal. I'm sure fp4 or Dusty can comment here confirming that there is no boinky script in tower levels that would cause a player to just randomly get warped away at critical points when sieging a tower.  

Posted by Thallen

Nice try to deflect, but would you care to comment on Envy's continuous abuse to get your guild towers? Are Abel, Eldon, and I just making this up? Why do Aster and Envy continue to do this stuff?

How come a member of your guild spammed everyone in my guild with PMs when we were defending a tower? He even said "GOGOGOGO" on screen, confirming that he was finished spamming us and you guys all charged in (including Aster and Envy).
http://gyazo.com/7542c9c79f51d4350c9b4d2c5805cd70.png (Unsupported image host)

Every single member of my guild reported this guy, and I even PMed Envy about it, but nothing was done.

This is the leader of Vintage, if anyone is curious.

Spamming a guild before an attack is not illegal, though a low move on our part I wasnt aware of, it's legal. As well as the Abel, Ast wasn't even online on staff when this occurred, he was unkillable attacking the flag, staff saw, he was warned, he continued, he was banned. I don't know what else you're referring to with the other people.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

Spamming a guild before an attack is not illegal, though a low move on our part I wasnt aware of, it's legal. As well as the Abel, Ast wasn't even online on staff when this occurred, he was unkillable attacking the flag, staff saw, he was warned, he continued, he was banned. I don't know what else you're referring to with the other people.

I don't care if it's illegal or not, that isn't the point. It just goes to show that there are administrators who are heavily-invested in tower guilds. Enough so that they would strategize and cooperate to do something as low and stupid as that.

Spamming an entire guild with PMs so that they can't communicate in guild messages may not be illegal, my favor-banning members of competing guilds, and constantly going invisible to stalk forts, and warping players out of forts sure doesn't seem like the most productive stuff for an admin to do on an every-other-day basis.

TBH, your guild should probably be reset and Envy should definitely be fired. Just my opinion, though. This isn't an argument or a flame war either, this is actually a productive conversation that is helping prove my point. I'm glad you decided to post here.  

Posted by Thallen

Of course, that's almost old news. They do it so often that it's almost a part of the game itself, I don't even complain about it anymore. I actually accept it as a part of Graal. I'm sure fp4 or Dusty can comment here confirming that there is no boinky script in tower levels that would cause a player to just randomly get warped away at critical points when sieging a tower.

We were warped ALL the time. It's everyone that was being warped. If staff was doing it, it shows a message, it was already established that didn't happen. No staff warped anyone, everyone towering was being warped. It was annoying as hell when you'd have 5 go down same time and 3 warped. It was not an isolated occurrence.

Posted by Thallen

I don't care if it's illegal or not, that isn't the point. It just goes to show that there are administrators who are heavily-invested in tower guilds. Enough so that they would strategize and cooperate to do something as low and stupid as that.

Spamming an entire guild with PMs so that they can't communicate in guild messages may not be illegal, my favor-banning members of competing guilds, and constantly going invisible to stalk forts, and warping players out of forts sure doesn't seem like the most productive stuff for an admin to do on an every-other-day basis.

TBH, your guild should probably be reset and Envy should definitely be fired. Just my opinion, though. This isn't an argument or a flame war either, this is actually a productive conversation that is helping prove my point. I'm glad you decided to post here.

The spamming the guild thing is a "newbie" thing to do. It's like the member who takes a tag so they can steal the flag, if we were aware, it would've stopped. They should've been attacking, not spamming lol.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

We were warped ALL the time. It's everyone that was being warped. If staff was doing it, it shows a message, it was already established that didn't happen. No staff warped anyone, everyone towering was being warped. It was annoying as hell when you'd have 5 go down same time and 3 warped. It was not an isolated occurrence.

The warping you're experiencing sounds like the kind that occurs when the server lags and you change levels back and forth too many times, and you are warped onto a wall.

Either way, I've contributed enough to the thread for now and hopefully you'll show this thread to the awful admins in your guild and they'll get it together. Maybe they should take a break from towering 16 hours a day and actually administrate the game, anyway.  

there's an admin called libbie (don't know if she is an admin anymore) who was in 99 problems, who threatened to ban me because I was saint and in her flag room. Honestly, it needs to be sorted out, i think admins shouldn't be allowed to tower, end of story.  

Guild forts are where most problems occur, but if a staff member is handling a problem incorrectly, he or she needs to be corrected, and possibly dropped from the staff team if it continues. I haven't spent more than a few minutes at a time at a guild fort in the past two years, but I would think staff members that handle fort-related issues would wise up by now... I don't think GP's need to leave all competitive guilds, but should act like staff while on staff account. That means no favoritism. While on a non-staff account, I think one shouldn't have to worry about unfair advantages. That is where I think the line should be drawn between player activity and staff activity.

Perhaps there are just too many GP's to accurately keep track of their individual performance??  

Posted by Thallen

The warping you're experiencing sounds like the kind that occurs when the server lags and you change levels back and forth too many times, and you are warped onto a wall.

Either way, I've contributed enough to the thread for now and hopefully you'll show this thread to the awful admins in your guild and they'll get it together. Maybe they should take a break from towering 16 hours a day and actually administrate the game, anyway.

No way someone under 15 is going to fix this problem *cough* envy *cough*  

How can someone get banned for spam when there's a block button lol. Thallen, it's CLEARLY obvious just having your keyboard up on your iDevice makes hits much longer to recognize on someone. And typing on PC is the same concept. I can get someone to record this if you want lol this one is a fact, this isn't opinion based lol if you block while chatting you'll take longer to die.