Posted by Colin

Criticizing a religion doesn't make you racist bimbo

You should learn to read buddy, let me give you a few examples:



“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217



“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191



“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4



“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” 8:12



“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” 4:34



“Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123



“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” 48:29



“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” 4:89



"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" 3:151



"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" 5:33

Should I keep going? These are just a few of the violent versus, haven't even gotten to the aggressive stuff regarding women/homosexuals and others aside from the quote in there about beating women who don't obey you.

If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)  

Posted by Wick

If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)

Is that supposed to counter all of those quotes? That's the equivalent to a school shooter telling his friend who was nice to him not to go to school tomorrow. His ideals are still f*cked up, but it's supposed to be alright because he's sparing people who were particularly nice to him?

It basically means "leave us to do whatever the hell we please, and we won't have a problem with you. Interfere, and you'll regret it." There's already this anyways, which pretty much counters your quote:

“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, donÂ’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” 4:89  

Posted by Wick

If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)

Wick, you're the same person who called me racist when I criticised some of islams core beliefs and still seem to have that ideology that "anyone who says bad things about my religion is racist"


Islam isn't a race first of all, Second of all I encourage Colin and anyone else to avoid arguing with both wick and saeed because both of these ignorant morons will get upset and continue to reply saying "you're wrong" without any context.

It's the same as jimbo vs sarah/dark if they're wrong in the fact department they will just say "you're wrong" without context.



TO BE VERY CLEAR, Nobody here is an "islamaphobe" you're just sensitive and ignorant and refuse to bring any factual or true information to an argument.


Kosiris himself lives in Saudi Arabia and hes not tossing out the race card or criticizing others, hes contributing to the conversation which is what saeed refuses to do.


Pigparty is also somebody I wouldn't waste time on, besides the whole ignorant banter he spits out he also refuses to value your opinion and hits the quote button without actually reading what you've said and understanding it. It's the same as saeed. They fail to read or even bother trying to interpret what anyone here is trying to say and just want to start drama.

Posted by Chase*

I have no proof but I do know what I'm saying..

You basically summed up everything anyone could reply to you with:

Posted by Chase*

I have no proof but I do know what I'm saying..

The problem with islam is that todays "sjw" group just refuses to read up on what they're actually "defending"

As I said 3 times over, you are replying randomly without actually trying to read or understand what colin is saying, you just have that ****ty mentality you display on iclassic and on the iclassic subforum where if you don't like what someone is saying you'll quickly whip something up and post it without thinking.

Posted by Darkk

You didn't know it was called the Quran a few days ago...

"I don't fast" - saeed

Basically lying about being muslim, or he just isn't informed into what his religion states he must do.  

how is this thread not closed yet my god  

Posted by Red

Pigparty is also somebody I wouldn't waste time on, besides the whole ignorant banter he spits out he also refuses to value your opinion and hits the quote button without actually reading what you've said and understanding it. It's the same as saeed. They fail to read or even bother trying to interpret what anyone here is trying to say and just want to start drama.

You're sorely mistaken.

I simply don't value your opinion. I don't value advice from fourth graders, so I surely won't value your thoughts.

Also, I read what I quote. However, uneducated nards like yourself are often rambling random bull****. That's the reason I don't always understand what you have to say.

Please, as I have argued before: don't overgeneralize. It's not me; it's you.  

Posted by PigParty

You're sorely mistaken.

I simply don't value your opinion. I don't value advice from fourth graders, so I surely won't value your thoughts.

Also, I read what I quote. However, uneducated nards like yourself are often rambling random bull****. That's the reason I don't always understand what you have to say.

Please, as I have argued before: don't overgeneralize. It's not me; it's you.

hahaha **** you're such a joke.

I'm sure constantly saying kosiris's opinion is wrong will help you win this argument, the dude lives in Saudi Arabia and according to you "its not that bad" please **** off back to tumblr with your level of sensitivity.

you're the definition of emotionally weak, gotta water down the truth so "oh but muh feelings" aren't hurt aye?  

Posted by Pokki

how is this thread not closed yet my god

another attack happens just before the thread is truly dead  

Humans in the air boooom booooooooom party  

Idk why red gotta drag this old **** up even tho red had harrashed me coz of being in middle east.Anyways for those who say islam is violence just read their holy book bible there are some "Jihadi" verses there.  

Posted by Red

hahaha **** you're such a joke.

I'm sure constantly saying kosiris's opinion is wrong will help you win this argument, the dude lives in Saudi Arabia and according to you "its not that bad" please **** off back to tumblr with your level of sensitivity.

you're the definition of emotionally weak, gotta water down the truth so "oh but muh feelings" aren't hurt aye?

you know that paraphrasing someone (even if it's wrongly paraphrased, like it is with you) should not be in quotations. Quotations are kind of for... quotes.

But hey! You learn something new every day.

Posted by Wick

Idk why red gotta drag this old **** up even tho red had harrashed me coz of being in middle east.Anyways for those who say islam is violence just read their holy book bible there are some "Jihadi" verses there.

the fact that 2 people now have tried to get involved in this argument but don't know the name of their holy book doesn't help your argument...

But yea, just don't pay attention to red. He deserves as many seconds of your attention as he has IQ.  

Posted by Red

Wick, you're the same person who called me racist when I criticised some of islams core beliefs and still seem to have that ideology that "anyone who says bad things about my religion is racist"


Islam isn't a race first of all, Second of all I encourage Colin and anyone else to avoid arguing with both wick and saeed because both of these ignorant morons will get upset and continue to reply saying "you're wrong" without any context.

It's the same as jimbo vs sarah/dark if they're wrong in the fact department they will just say "you're wrong" without context.



TO BE VERY CLEAR, Nobody here is an "islamaphobe" you're just sensitive and ignorant and refuse to bring any factual or true information to an argument.


Kosiris himself lives in Saudi Arabia and hes not tossing out the race card or criticizing others, hes contributing to the conversation which is what saeed refuses to do.


Pigparty is also somebody I wouldn't waste time on, besides the whole ignorant banter he spits out he also refuses to value your opinion and hits the quote button without actually reading what you've said and understanding it. It's the same as saeed. They fail to read or even bother trying to interpret what anyone here is trying to say and just want to start drama.




You basically summed up everything anyone could reply to you with:


The problem with islam is that todays "sjw" group just refuses to read up on what they're actually "defending"

As I said 3 times over, you are replying randomly without actually trying to read or understand what colin is saying, you just have that ****ty mentality you display on iclassic and on the iclassic subforum where if you don't like what someone is saying you'll quickly whip something up and post it without thinking.



"I don't fast" - saeed

Basically lying about being muslim, or he just isn't informed into what his religion states he must do.

Why would I say they're correct when just copy paste from google after typing in the search engine 'bad quotes from the Quran' and of course google shows them what they want by taking a part from a quote which makes them miss -understood the actual meaning of the quote. I backed up my point with different quotes and I proved them wrong by showing them the actual meaning of the quotes they listed but, they decide to stick to the small part of the whole quotation which emphasises a different meaning of the original quote. Anyone in this thread can type in the search engine 'bad quotes from (e.g bible) and google will show them what they asked for but in-fact google only shows them a part of a quotation to emphasises a different meaning. I explained my religion to them, now it's their choice if they want to do further researches about the quotes they got from google.
If you search my name 'saeed' in google you'll find out it's a muslim name. I'm originally from syria but moved to the uk 5 years ago because: my dad works in the uk and staying in syria wasn't/isn't a wise decision.
I never said I don't fast? I just said I break my fasting when it's really hot on that day and If I had to go outside my house in a hot weather. If you want to increase the number of your posts without reading the previous pages, you're in the wrong thread. There is no need for me to post here anymore since both sides expressed their opinions and decided to stick to them.
'states what he must do' Again you're not doing any researches, You can break your fasting if it's harmful to you (it was very hot in that day which made me feel sick) (the other day I had exams and didn't want my fasting to effect it) But, after Ramadan finishes you have to fast the day you missed later on the year.  

Posted by Ryan

another terror attack happens just before the thread is truly dead

fixed  

Posted by Saeed

staying in syria wasn't/isn't a wise decision.

Same with all other Islam dominated countries, I wonder why?

You're either stupid or extremely blind, I quote the Quran killing non-believers and you just try to justify it by saying it only applies to Muslims who leave the religion like that's ok (you"re sick and delusional)

"They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” 4:89

How is this being misunderstood?

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” 4:34

RELIGION. OF. PEACE.  

This is being misunderstood coz you are writting those verses out of context.What it actually say is

As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).” (Quran 4:34)

They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, dont take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.(4 89)If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)  

"beat them(lightly)" yah the (lightly) part makes it completely acceptable

Still waiting for you guys to explain why Islam dominated countries are filled with apes who stone gays and treat women subhuman and breed terrorism based off Islamic belief