Posted by Vendetta

Compared to Trump? A man who gets into heated arguments over Twitter? The majority of people I know think it's a joke that he's even got this far.

Right, because the majority of people you know are representative of the whole. Availability heuristics aren't a good thing to base judgement on, regardless of who your vote is placed for.  

Funny Hilary's reaction to Trump video is that once that way always that way and you can never change, but remember when she referred to Black-American youth as super predators (very racist term) and she just simply apologized and said she regrets it and would never say it again similar to what Trump did, well once that way always that way according to her and she hasn't changed.

She suggests that rather than trying to understand how poverty and social exclusion may have led children to make certain choices, it is more important to first “bring them to heel.” (getting the FBI involved and ruining children instead of trying to help - because this occurred around the time when Black-American youth was a huge victim of racial violence and stereotyping and so it was very easy for them to end up in these situations)

Apparently someone has a vid of her being extremely racist and says they'll release it soon, we'll see  

Posted by Vendetta

Compared to Trump? A man who gets into heated arguments over Twitter? The majority of people I know think it's a joke that he's even got this far.

honestly the same goes for Hillary Clinton. Don't take my next comparisons too seriously, as I'm just doing it as a way to show how bad Hillary Clinton is, rather than saying Trump's better than her.

Heated (and utterly stupid and pointless) arguments on Twitter vs.

1. mishandling classified information
2. lying to the public about her use of her email, even after Comey publicly said she did something she still claims she didn't
3. lying about being under sniper fire (FOR NO REASON) when visiting another country
4. Benghazi
5. Admitted she had a private stance that's different than her public stance
6. Questions of foreign donations to her foundation

Trump sucks, but so does Hillary Clinton. One's a joke, and one's corrupt and abusive with her powers and can't be trusted by the American people.  

Posted by Fulgore

Right, because the majority of people you know are representative of the whole. Availability heuristics aren't a good thing to base judgement on, regardless of who your vote is placed for.

The third most signed petition on the UK government website is calling for Trump to be banned from UK entry. Because it received over 500000 signatures it was debated in parliament. It's pretty obvious from remarks made during the debate (such as referring to trump as "this ridiculous individual") that they think he's a joke.

Posted by PigParty

honestly the same goes for Hillary Clinton. Don't take my next comparisons too seriously, as I'm just doing it as a way to show how bad Hillary Clinton is, rather than saying Trump's better than her.

Heated (and utterly stupid and pointless) arguments on Twitter vs.

1. mishandling classified information
2. lying to the public about her use of her email, even after Comey publicly said she did something she still claims she didn't
3. lying about being under sniper fire (FOR NO REASON) when visiting another country
4. Benghazi
5. Admitted she had a private stance that's different than her public stance
6. Questions of foreign donations to her foundation

Trump sucks, but so does Hillary Clinton. One's a joke, and one's corrupt and abusive with her powers and can't be trusted by the American people.

Okay yeah, neither candidate is ideal - both are pretty awful and I can't really understand how either of them got this far. I just think Trump would be do more damage than good for America and more importantly the world, imo it's just about voting to keep Trump out.  

Let's not forget when she slammed Bernie Sanders claiming he was pro-gun because he believes gun manufacturers are not liable when their firearms are used in crimes (which is the current law).

Her personal belief is that gun manufacturers should legally be allowed to get sued and held responsible if someone legally purchases one of their guns and uses it to commit a crime, which is really really really stupid.  

Posted by Vendetta

The third most signed petition on the UK government website is calling for Trump to be banned from UK entry. Because it received over 500000 signatures it was debated in parliament. It's pretty obvious from remarks made during the debate (such as referring to trump as "this ridiculous individual") that they think he's a joke.

That's funny, but holds no merit. You use an online petition signed by 500k people in all of the UK. He's the #1 newsworthy person in the world right now, so of course people are going to take sides. ~Half of America thinks Hillary Clinton should be in prison while ~half of America thinks Trump should drop out. I bet there's plenty of people in the UK that like Trump. Actually, the guy who led the Brexit movement actually endoresed Donald Trump.

Posted by Vendetta

Okay yeah, neither candidate is ideal - both are pretty awful and I can't really understand how either of them got this far. I just think Trump would be do more damage than good for America and more importantly the world, imo it's just about voting to keep Trump out.

Definitely agree that having both of these candidates as our options is pretty pathetic. I have no idea how good (or bad) Trump will do, but I'm still probably voting for him. Although, I've been getting close to just voting for Gary Johnson. It amazes myself that I'm willing to vote for someone while having no idea whether he will be good or not. Just shows how sad America's election is.  

Posted by PigParty

That's funny, but holds no merit. You use an online petition signed by 500k people in all of the UK. He's the #1 newsworthy person in the world right now, so of course people are going to take sides. ~Half of America thinks Hillary Clinton should be in prison while ~half of America thinks Trump should drop out. I bet there's plenty of people in the UK that like Trump. Actually, the guy who led the Brexit movement actually endoresed Donald Trump.

It's the third most signed petition on the website though, it shows that people care about it - I mean if you watch the debate about it even the government he's ridiculous. I've hardly seen Trump in the news here though, people definitely care a lot less than the US so I don't think most people are influenced by the media bias.

Yeah Nigel Farage is pretty much the closest thing to Trump here in the UK, he lead the UKIP party who I guess had similar views to Trump, they got 1 seat out of 650 in parliament. The main demographics who voted for him and voted to leave the EU were the elderly, lower class, unemployed and those with poor education. He also lied a bunch about the the benefits that leaving would bring and is generally known as having quite racist views. He's definitely not someone that you want to be associated with.

Posted by PigParty

Definitely agree that having both of these candidates as our options is pretty pathetic. I have no idea how good (or bad) Trump will do, but I'm still probably voting for him. Although, I've been getting close to just voting for Gary Johnson. It amazes myself that I'm willing to vote for someone while having no idea whether he will be good or not. Just shows how sad America's election is.

Yeah 100%. I think any other candidate than Trump or Hillary could do better, just a shame how the system works.  

Idk if the poll is real of fake, but its worrying  

Sucks that stupid people are allowed to vote irl otherwise they'd probably try a lot harder to show what good things they want to achieve instead of them and the media starting drama about nothing  

Posted by Ryan

Idk if the poll is real of fake, but its worrying

Enlighten us about American politics, as an Australian

I think the worst part about Clinton voters is that they can't even detail what it is about their candidate that they actually like (probably because there is nothing)
And that's not counting "because she's a woman"

They just seem like a bunch of groveling and oversensitive people  

Posted by DoubleliftGraal

Are you joking? Then how about every single candidate that's run for president(USA)? Did we have a pre-presidential test to see what they'd do? Honestly, we don't know what these presidents will REALLY do in their running years until they run, then we see if they're good or not. It's their background information and future plans that help us want to vote for someone.

Yes. Not sure what you're trying to rebut. I said I had no idea whether he would be good or not. Most Presidential candidates give you an idea of whether they will be good or not. Sure, that idea could be wrong. I never said we knew exactly what someone would do as President, so that's not even an argument. I was saying that I have no actual clue as to whether or not Trump would be good.

Posted by DoubleliftGraal

So basically, choose between a corrupt leader or a potty mouth. But the only reason Trump seems like a potty mouth is because of the media. "Trump assaults a woman at a nightclub". Honestly, that right there is a joke. Trump has every right to go insane. AT A NIGHTCLUB MAN LMAO, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO THERE BOI!

Not even going to respond to that level of ignorance.

Posted by Thallen

Enlighten us about American politics, as an Australian

I think the worst part about Clinton voters is that they can't even detail what it is about their candidate that they actually like (probably because there is nothing)
And that's not counting "because she's a woman"

They just seem like a bunch of groveling and oversensitive people

The sad thing is that Trump himself probably can't detail his own policies that are listed on his website. Makes me really question him, because I like his website's policies, but I don't think he even knows what those are.  

Posted by Thallen

Enlighten us about American politics, as an Australian

I think the worst part about Clinton voters is that they can't even detail what it is about their candidate that they actually like (probably because there is nothing)
And that's not counting "because she's a woman"

They just seem like a bunch of groveling and oversensitive people

Who has said they're voting Hillary because she's a woman? Haven't heard anyone say that.

I don't agree with Hillary much or think that she would be a good president, I just believe she's better than the alternative.

So I think Hillary's tax brackets make much more sense than Trump's, I think it's pretty obvious that the wealthier should be taxed a much higher proportion of their income. Of course Trump would disagree, a lot of his policies seem to benefit him rather than the country.

Trump's stance on abortion and same-sex marriage is wrong in my opinion. Unlike his running mate I don't believe that "conversion therapy" really solves or does anything.

As I've said before, I don't agree with Trump at all that climate change is a hoax. I don't see how anyone can deny that it's real without political or financial motivation. We are most likely the last generation who can do something about it, anything is better than making it worse which is what he is suggesting. Unlike his running mate I also believe evolution is real, just saying.

I don't think banning a whole religious group from entering the country is going to solve much, I also don't agree with sending refugees back to Syria.

Also the way Trump conducts himself is awful, he honestly acts like a child. I don't think anyone like that is fit to be president.  

GG the Clinton Foundation accepted a one-million dollar "donation" (bribe lol) from Qatar, a country that funded ISIS, legally allows martial beatings and raping of women (often results in them facing harsh backlash if they speak out about being attacked), and other very disturbing things.

But yah Trump said something stupid on Twitter so obviously Hilary is the better choice  

Posted by Thallen

Enlighten us about American politics, as an Australian

I think the worst part about Clinton voters is that they can't even detail what it is about their candidate that they actually like (probably because there is nothing)
And that's not counting "because she's a woman"

They just seem like a bunch of groveling and oversensitive people

idk it all just seems a little stupid from the rest of the world looking in  

u guys are wasting ur time arguing liek fr but i'd vote for hillary, trump is cray cray and has no experience with politics + he assaults women plus he thinks climate change is a hoax plus he argues on twitter and hillary flames him plus he cant organize himself plus he uses spray tan plus hes a joke and putin even pointed it out like ffs he's so dumb kms send me to australia wow im a hypocrite im arguing rn