Sparring is the only fighting activity which requires skill?

Neil · 10-03-2015

Sparring is the only thing in graal that requires skill? If you're not good at sparring you are a noob? Being "good" and having lots of kills from PKing and BKing is just a coping mechanism for noobs? Yes or no.

Albie · 10-03-2015

Anyone can enter mod fort and swing their sword in a bunch of directions, anyone can sit in a mob and spam the s key.
Sparring makes the fights fair and as you obviously know, it's much harder to get a spar win than a kill.

Yes you can be good at pking but it honestly doesn't take much skill imo

PigParty · 10-04-2015

If you look at PK stats-wise, then no it doesn't require skill, but good PK actually does require skill, along with basing. It can't be measured by stats though, but neither can spar, since some people just join rooms with new players & leave when 'pros' come in.

Unknown · 10-04-2015

PKing is definitely a skill. The only way of telling on Classic however is actually watching someone PK. If they ever showed deaths in the profile, then you would be able to see who is really good, barring those that lame kills or do some sort of "shifty business" to get it. PKing is almost a lost art imo, a lot of people care more about sparring. I would love to see a server hosted Guildwar, first to 10000k kills gets a hat. Would be fun, would also encourage pking guild, and therefore more PKing in order to practice for it.

Ryan · 10-04-2015

Pk doesn't require skill. The only factor is how much time will you waste PKing

Sicx · 10-04-2015

What about events--

Riddles, hide n seek, cliff climber, sumo, etc.

& im sure any one who has skill in this game is proud irl..

MBK · 10-04-2015

Bug catching requires skills

Sardon · 10-04-2015

Posted by Ryan

Pk doesn't require skill. The only factor is how much time will you waste PKing

exactly
Its so boring too the best and only server fun to pk on is zodiac

Posted by Albie

Anyone can enter mod fort and swing their sword in a bunch of directions, anyone can sit in a mob and spam the s key.
Sparring makes the fights fair and as you obviously know, it's much harder to get a spar win than a kill.

Yes you can be good at pking but it honestly doesn't take much skill imo

Anyone can boost and use vpn, positive scores are very easy to earn
I have sparred many positive people who are selective and suck

Posted by Unknown

PKing is definitely a skill. The only way of telling on Classic however is actually watching someone PK. If they ever showed deaths in the profile, then you would be able to see who is really good, barring those that lame kills or do some sort of "shifty business" to get it. PKing is almost a lost art imo, a lot of people care more about sparring. I would love to see a server hosted Guildwar, first to 10000k kills gets a hat. Would be fun, would also encourage pking guild, and therefore more PKing in order to practice for it.

the ap system really pks pk

Posted by Sicx

What about events--

Riddles, hide n seek, cliff climber, sumo, etc.

& im sure any one who has skill in this game is proud irl..

what about events? they are hard to get in, its by luck.trivia is a typing contest even if you know the answers theres always that nerd who types faster than you.

Posted by MBK

Bug catching requires skills

Not very effective way of making money compared to farming

The year you started in doesn't make you better either your items either.

Its the amount of friends and enemies you have in the community and your general knowledge of graal

Basically in my prespective if you think graal was made in 2009 you are a noob!

Bryan* · 10-04-2015

Kills: Over 227K
Deaths: Around 100K-150K

twilit · 10-04-2015

Posted by PigParty

If you look at PK stats-wise, then no it doesn't require skill, but good PK actually does require skill, along with basing. It can't be measured by stats though, but neither can spar, since some people just join rooms with new players & leave when 'pros' come in.

Agree with this.

But Baddy killing ~> skill? lol no. Standing in one spot swinging your sword wont make you good at anything.

Ash Ketchum · 10-04-2015

Posted by Ryan

Pk doesn't require skill. The only factor is how much time will you waste PKing

Posted by Albie

Anyone can enter mod fort and swing their sword in a bunch of directions, anyone can sit in a mob and spam the s key.
Sparring makes the fights fair and as you obviously know, it's much harder to get a spar win than a kill.

Yes you can be good at pking but it honestly doesn't take much skill imo

oh yeah? So you're saying that a noob, from Balamb, which has no skill at all can PK at mod and get at least 1 kill per 2-3 minutes for 1 hour? Unlikely. You need skill, you need to know where to go, you need to know where to hit, and what to do to be as efficient as possible when Player Killing. Player killers that are top ranked are no joke.

Kosiris · 10-04-2015

Posted by Albie

Anyone can enter mod fort and swing their sword in a bunch of directions, anyone can sit in a mob and spam the s key.
Sparring makes the fights fair and as you obviously know, it's much harder to get a spar win than a kill.

Yes you can be good at pking but it honestly doesn't take much skill imo

you act like people would want to run into your sword whenever you use it at MoD, which is not how it goes

can't quote PigParty for some reason, but his post summarizes how I view PK

Fulgore · 10-04-2015

It depends on how you grade skill at pking. If you try and grade skill of of just the total number of pks someone has, then there is none, it's just time investment. That being said, there is a skill as to how quickly someone can get many pks, and how efficiently. Anyu rose to her high number of pks very very quickly, and though she did put decent time in, the efficiency in her pking was quite clear, which takes skill. There is also of course the matter of kill to death ratio.

Spar may be a bit more clear as to why it takes skill, but I wouldn't say it's the only thing, assuming the skill measured for pking is what I mentioned above.

That sums up my opinion in the matter.

Noxious · 10-04-2015

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Player killers that are top ranked are no joke.

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe she was just tired, but every time I saw Anyu (lll) at MoD, her fighting wasn't what I would called skilled. Anyone can get a lot of kills if they just put in the time.

As for the OP question, everything requires skill to some degree, but don't expect the statistics on a profile to correlate.

Ash Ketchum · 10-04-2015

Posted by Noxious

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe she was just tired, but every time I saw Anyu (lll) at MoD, her fighting wasn't what I would called skilled. Anyone can get a lot of kills if they just put in the time.

As for the OP question, everything requires skill to some degree, but don't expect the statistics on a profile to correlate.

Try player killing for 7+ hours straight, and see if you don't decrease in fighting skill

Poll Results: Sparring is the only thing that requires skill?
32.00%	Yes
68.00%	No
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Neil Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 988	Sparring is the only fighting activity which requires skill? Sparring is the only thing in graal that requires skill? If you're not good at sparring you are a noob? Being "good" and having lots of kills from PKing and BKing is just a coping mechanism for noobs? Yes or no.

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Albie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Battle Arena Posts: 1,550	Anyone can enter mod fort and swing their sword in a bunch of directions, anyone can sit in a mob and spam the s key. Sparring makes the fights fair and as you obviously know, it's much harder to get a spar win than a kill. Yes you can be good at pking but it honestly doesn't take much skill imo

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	If you look at PK stats-wise, then no it doesn't require skill, but good PK actually does require skill, along with basing. It can't be measured by stats though, but neither can spar, since some people just join rooms with new players & leave when 'pros' come in.

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Unknown US (BTK) Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 226	PKing is definitely a skill. The only way of telling on Classic however is actually watching someone PK. If they ever showed deaths in the profile, then you would be able to see who is really good, barring those that lame kills or do some sort of "shifty business" to get it. PKing is almost a lost art imo, a lot of people care more about sparring. I would love to see a server hosted Guildwar, first to 10000k kills gets a hat. Would be fun, would also encourage pking guild, and therefore more PKing in order to practice for it.

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Ryan Verified ✔️ Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 6,041	Pk doesn't require skill. The only factor is how much time will you waste PKing

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Sicx Registered Sarcastic User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: ⓝⓞ Posts: 1,015	What about events-- Riddles, hide n seek, cliff climber, sumo, etc. & im sure any one who has skill in this game is proud irl..

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MBK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,379	Bug catching requires skills

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Bryan* Verified ✔️ Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: M.I.A Posts: 3,408	Kills: Over 227K Deaths: Around 100K-150K

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Fulgore Python Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,894	It depends on how you grade skill at pking. If you try and grade skill of of just the total number of pks someone has, then there is none, it's just time investment. That being said, there is a skill as to how quickly someone can get many pks, and how efficiently. Anyu rose to her high number of pks very very quickly, and though she did put decent time in, the efficiency in her pking was quite clear, which takes skill. There is also of course the matter of kill to death ratio. Spar may be a bit more clear as to why it takes skill, but I wouldn't say it's the only thing, assuming the skill measured for pking is what I mentioned above. That sums up my opinion in the matter.