Posted by Rashard

do you know how delay works on this ****ty game? i've played this game for probably just as long as thall. i know how this hit detection works as much as one could. that doesn't even matter at this point though. thall has no delay, which makes it even more obvious things aren't right if a obvious tie hit goes in his favor. like i said before though nothing will be done about it, admins who host the GST have 0 experience sparring. it's not a shock no one intervenes

also, granted i'm not around much, i've never heard of you as a sparrer so i doubt your opinion is relevant in this thread

shame to see that you're still making excuses after like 15 years, you take losses really hard but i dunno why considering the last 2 times you've won the were when i was on the team which was like 4 years ago?

someone told me you got 2 hits in one of these recent GST rounds against us lol was it all the tie hits that i allegedly won against you or what happened man?

i'll give you a week to practice and you can give me a time and date where i can beat you in a series in front of a massive amount of people if you want, you can record it first person or do whatever you feel is necessary  

Posted by Thallen

shame to see that you're still making excuses after like 15 years, you take losses really hard but i dunno why considering the last 2 times you've won the were when i was on the team which was like 4 years ago?

someone told me you got 2 hits in one of these recent GST rounds against us lol was it all the tie hits that i allegedly won against you or what happened man?

i'll give you a week to practice and you can give me a time and date where i can beat you in a series in front of a massive amount of people if you want, you can record it first person or do whatever you feel is necessary

LOL everything here screams ego thallen maybe after you can series westbrook and lose again lol  

Posted by Rashard

thall has no delay, which makes it even more obvious things aren't right if a obvious tie hit goes in his favor. like i said before though nothing will be done about it, admins who host the GST have 0 experience sparring. it's not a shock no one intervenes

Are you talking about these?
I watched the match today, and these are the only hits that looked anything close to sketchy, but I myself have gotten hits like this, so I can't 100% say that he toggled. Plus out of all the hits, it's only these 3, so prob wouldn't have made a difference either way. Thallen didn't have crazy numbers either, went 7-4 & 6-5

Not sure for this one, could be the viewer. Rest look pretty clean




For this one seems like he just swung after the sword animation ended, which can look crazy, but I've gotten a lot of these before, so


Again, same thing with the sword animation ending and just timing your hits. There is a small window open when the sword animation is about to end. Can run in, get a hit and avoid trading. I've gotten a lot of these, nothing sketchy imo

Posted by Thallen

shame to see that you're still making excuses after like 15 years, you take losses really hard but i dunno why considering the last 2 times you've won the were when i was on the team which was like 4 years ago?

someone told me you got 2 hits in one of these recent GST rounds against us lol was it all the tie hits that i allegedly won against you or what happened man?

i'll give you a week to practice and you can give me a time and date where i can beat you in a series in front of a massive amount of people if you want, you can record it first person or do whatever you feel is necessary

ares went 7-6 both rounds

0:17 - 0:23 Quintuple
https://i.imgur.com/CMxXTfZ.gifv

Here is the match for anyone interested

 

looks to me like ya’ll just got bodied lo  

lo kicko nah thart not what happen lo kiko  

nount lo (never participated in a gst)  

im gunna get a belt next season watch kicko lo (darth)  

Posted by Mount

LOL everything here screams ego thallen maybe after you can series westbrook and lose again lol

Idk the history of Thallen in series, But I'd guarantee you that from how i seen Westbrook spar vs how Thallen does, Westbrook would need a miracle to pull a W...  

Posted by Rusix

Idk the history of Thallen in series, But I'd guarantee you that from how i seen Westbrook spar vs how Thallen does, Westbrook would need a miracle to pull a W...

lo rusix nice customs buddy XD  

Posted by Aguzo

Are you talking about these?
I watched the match today, and these are the only hits that looked anything close to sketchy, but I myself have gotten hits like this, so I can't 100% say that he toggled. Plus out of all the hits, it's only these 3, so prob wouldn't have made a difference either way. Thallen didn't have crazy numbers either, went 7-4 & 6-5

Not sure for this one, could be the viewer. Rest look pretty clean




For this one seems like he just swung after the sword animation ended, which can look crazy, but I've gotten a lot of these before, so


Again, same thing with the sword animation ending and just timing your hits. There is a small window open when the sword animation is about to end. Can run in, get a hit and avoid trading. I've gotten a lot of these, nothing sketchy imo


ares went 7-6 both rounds

0:17 - 0:23 Quintuple
https://i.imgur.com/CMxXTfZ.gifv

Here is the match for anyone interested

Can you get less laggy examples? Like my Lord even i don't see things where people warp around that much and I have a 250 ms delay, regardless from the 2nd&3rd thing you sent clearly the other person's sword got done swinging when Thallen wasn't there by time Thallen countered and attack, As for the first one that's really the one questionable one as it didnt look like the sword animation was fully over, But given how warpy and laggy those was i couldn't say for sure.  

Posted by Rusix

Can you get less laggy examples? Like my Lord even i don't see things where people warp around that much and I have a 250 ms delay, regardless from the 2nd&3rd thing you sent clearly the other person's sword got done swinging when Thallen wasn't there by time Thallen countered and attack, As for the first one that's really the one questionable one as it didnt look like the sword animation was fully over, But given how warpy and laggy those was i couldn't say for sure.

what do you not understand when we tell you the viewing rooms suck?
They are basically npcs mirroring the movements and looks of the sparrers so their is delay, and warp.  

Posted by Mount

what do you not understand when we tell you the viewing rooms suck?
They are basically npcs mirroring the movements and looks of the sparrers so their is delay, and warp.

The customs are mostly just edits from a body Phantos gave me and so on, my friend Amy did all the work and editing so she deserves the credit.

I usually view GST whenever I'm able to for something to do, and even the times I joined it as well I never see them this warpy and laggy where you can hardly make anything out. and I'm pretty well known as a delayer in graal... Regardless you can hardly make a stable leg of a point of Thallen hacking when the only examples of him supposedly hacking is beyond laggy, You can't even see Thallen swing his sword in the one where he hits the guy from above since it's so incredibly laggy...  

for someone who "has been sparring for a while", kind of strange you're completely unfamiliar with the gst viewer  

Posted by Fulgore

for someone who "has been sparring for a while", kind of strange you're completely unfamiliar with the gst viewer

that's exactly what I'm saying lol  

Posted by Rusix

regardless from the 2nd&3rd thing you sent clearly the other person's sword got done swinging when Thallen wasn't there by time Thallen countered and attack

that's literally what i said tho...

Posted by Aguzo

Again, same thing with the sword animation ending and just timing your hits. There is a small window open when the sword animation is about to end. Can run in, get a hit and avoid trading. I've gotten a lot of these, nothing sketchy imo

Posted by Rusix

As for the first one that's really the one questionable one as it didnt look like the sword animation was fully over, But given how warpy and laggy those was i couldn't say for sure.

yeah, not sure what happened there exactly, but it's only one hit, so who knows. Ares and them have more knowledge on past history, so I'm asking him if that's what he was talking about

Posted by Rusix

Can you get less laggy examples? Like my Lord even i don't see things where people warp around that much and I have a 250 ms delay

No

Anyway, doesn't look like the dude was hackin to me. Just timing your hits, and waiting for opponent to finish swinging
gst viewer sucks tho, so who knows