Watching you guys argue is more fun than playing zone. Ha..haha..hahaha. Funny.  

Posted by Unknown?

Watching you guys argue is more fun than playing zone. Ha..haha..hahaha. Funny.

So is watching gras grow.  

Posted by Platinum

Really, at the heart of this problem is that the managers, whether or not they're good devs, are poor managers.

This is exactly right. People get promoted because of their abilities, but no one bothers looking at leadership qualities when promoting, which is why departments hadleaders like Jack. ;) And which is why Zone's management was what it was.  

So i read through the thread. Seems like our main problem currently is management. I only saw one recommendation and thats silver, no idea who he is. Only person i could think of is meph.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

So i read through the thread. Seems like our main problem currently is management. I only saw one recommendation and thats silver, no idea who he is. Only person i could think of is meph.

who the hell is meph? Silver's a developer who has been with zone for a while.  

Meph is a coder, he did a lot of work with iera and we all like him.

Posted by PigParty

who the hell is meph? Silver's a developer who has been with zone for a while.

Is he any good and will allow the staff to make the changes needed to zone or is he crap?  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Meph is a coder, he did a lot of work with iera and we all like him.



Is he any good and will allow the staff to make the changes needed to zone or is he crap?

That's the problem. How is someone from era who never plays zone supposed to know what's best for zone? And I like Silver. I don't know how he would do exactly, but I sure as hell would choose him over anyone else right now.  

Because meph actually played the original zone along with a very long record of graal in general. Also its not hard for anyone to figure out whats wrong with izone and what it needs. I just stated the major issues about izone in OP. As long as manager know what needs to be done (in OP) and allows staff to work on it, its not an issue at all.  

get someone good at managing the server, idc who. Just get Carlito out of zone.  

Does zone even have any staff anymore?  

Posted by GenoIndeed

Before carlito, when i was there i had a lot of ideas i was preparing to implement, one thing i liked is that i was allowed to do them because alex and fr were open to ideas, issue was tho that there was times i needed them to fix/change something and it'd either take weeks for it to finally get done, or wasn't done at all. At that rate, progress wasn't were it should've been but things were moving so it wasn't too bad, they just needed to prioritize better and we'd be fine. Now, with carlito, we're barely even allowed to give ideas anymore because they'd just be ignored or instantly shot down with no discussion. And if he had an idea, which usually stemmed from his lack of zone knowledge because he doesn't even play the game, we were not allowed to make any disagreements on it no matter how bad it was (like his plan to intentionally make zone pay2win ((worst offense a game can make)) and his removal of my weapons admin position and make zp edit guns, which none know how to properly do the position (its more than it looks)), i got fired for constantly telling him that the pay2win thing was gonna kill zone, and he got mad when a few others and I were telling him removing the weapons admin position and making zp do it was bad (he did this because someone wanted work, and i offered to give them an assignment, thats literally what happened). A good leader leads, not controls, carlito wouldnt do a thing useful on the server and play league all day, but when someone wants to make some progress it always turned into some big argument, which tends to revolve around how "hes at a higher position and what he says goes" and led to rash decisions. He's power hungry, controlling, impulsive, and like i said to him and cheltarre and whoever else, this isnt me trying to bad mouth zone, ill be honest about whats going on and the fact that most of its negative needs to be a wake up call, not to carlito, but to unix about whats going on with his server, because its clear as day that our current management team isnt right for the job and need to be replaced with someone who respects his staff, is motivated, level headed, plays the game so he's knowledgeable, and will let creativity flow.

Damn that is the most true thing I have ever heard. Lmao.  

Technically, We have but they dont do any shts. So nope. I don't acknowledge them as staffs.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Because meph actually played the original zone along with a very long record of graal in general. Also its not hard for anyone to figure out whats wrong with izone and what it needs. I just stated the major issues about izone in OP. As long as manager know what needs to be done (in OP) and allows staff to work on it, its not an issue at all.

It would be nice to put meph, but we need a manager who knows zone.
Silver has been around for a while.  

Yeah silver has great ideas and could fix zone up nice if only he didnt have to go threw carlito for EVERY little thing in which then carlito declines 90% of and then the other 10% never get done cause carlito won't do anything but play league all day.  

Why zone is bad and is still bad-

When you get rejected for literally "being annoying"...

Like wot.

That's not what a position should be put up for. At least not for things which deal with improvements k.

If that were true then Joe Biden wouldn't be Vp...