Mob pking is inevitable. They will just take it to mod entrance if the overworld became a no pk zone. Overall, just consistently kill. These mob pkers have very little stamina. You'll easily place in the top 25 if you're consistent, 300-500 a day.

Yeah, it was easy to tell. Both of them were poor tower pkers, but you could easily see when the switches happened. Their styles were totally different.

I don't pk for the season awards, to be honest. Let the mob pkers win, they're all poor at actual pking anyway. I still wish the board was a kills - deaths board, so mob pking was mostly negated.  

Posted by Areo

I still wish the board was a kills - deaths board, so mob pking was mostly negated.

This would make getting into the top three so much more competitive. They should figure out a way to make this work. They made it so that baddies give out points instead of the kills counting for the leaderboard, they should do this to make the pk board more competitive too.  

Posted by Anakin_Graal

This would make getting into the top three so much more competitive. They should figure out a way to make this work. They made it so that baddies give out points instead of the kills counting for the leaderboard, they should do this to make the pk board more competitive too.

How do you want that to work? For them to do that, they'd need to assign each PKer some amount of points... The only way to do that, that I know of, is to take into account their deaths (which is an awful idea because some people BK, some people block areas at towers, and so on). I think it's fine being linear like it is.  

Posted by Thallen

How do you want that to work? For them to do that, they'd need to assign each PKer some amount of points... The only way to do that, that I know of, is to take into account their deaths (which is an awful idea because some people BK, some people block areas at towers, and so on). I think it's fine being linear like it is.

I didn't mean they should add points for pking, I meant since they improved the baddy board with points they should improve the pk board with kills - deaths as Areo said.

Edit: It's true that people might earn deaths from other non-pking activities, but if they were focused on getting up in the board they could just avoid death altogether.  

IDK, deaths seems like a stat that shouldn't be considered. I'd like to see Jeffy's deaths, or anyone that is an active BKer. If you're a towerer, some people get assigned roles like blocking doors or choke points, and your deaths get inflated through that as well. If they give players more points for getting kills at towers than in Graal City, it really skews rewards towards towering. Not only will towerers get a reward at 1k, they'll also get tons of kills and more value for their kills.  

You want to make a buzz? Each kill = 1 point | Each death = -1 point

Let's see how these players react when they will accumulate basically nothing for mob pking.  

Posted by Thallen

IDK, deaths seems like a stat that shouldn't be considered. I'd like to see Jeffy's deaths, or anyone that is an active BKer. If you're a towerer, some people get assigned roles like blocking doors or choke points, and your deaths get inflated through that as well.

Oooo a post your kills subtracting deaths thread!!!!!!  

These are good ideas , although I prefer standard linear pking , I just wish there was something in it for us active pkers who tower pk and don't get 5k a day . Once I hit 200k I'm gonna have no motivation for more. They really should have created spawn points outside crowded areas so people don't just die on the spot get up and spam again. After 3 or 4 seasons of this there's gonna be 500 people with 100k ._.

also just spoke to sky , apparently she got an email about her account sharing to pk , so admins knew about it , yet they let her keep her spot , ridiculous. Unfair advantage over everyone else , I'm guessing account sharing is allowed now then ?? Fair enough they can't go back and change the leaderboard or whatever but they should at least reset her , and rewl
Is it really that hard to just keep the game fair ._. Or do the admins/management just not care anymore?  

Posted by Thallen

IDK, deaths seems like a stat that shouldn't be considered. I'd like to see Jeffy's deaths, or anyone that is an active BKer. If you're a towerer, some people get assigned roles like blocking doors or choke points, and your deaths get inflated through that as well. If they give players more points for getting kills at towers than in Graal City, it really skews rewards towards towering. Not only will towerers get a reward at 1k, they'll also get tons of kills and more value for their kills.

I've explained this in other threads, but I'll post it here too.

Firstly, you would need to make deaths via baddies not count as a death on the leaderboard. If this is possible I am not entirely sure. Same for spar, that would need to not count as a death either. Other then that, the rest should be fair game.

Turning it into a points system and giving more points to towers doesn't fix the problem. Again, people will abuse it and bring the mob to MoD's door.

I understand that towers would suffer, as they definitely will not have a good K/D ratio. Ultimately, the pk board should be for pkers, not towerers. While towerers will suffer on the kill - deaths leaderboard, they still have their prize at the end of the road. It isn't like their kills won't be marked on their profile.

It would be like changing spar to a linear win board. The current pk board shows no skill. I'm not saying my idea is the best, but it would show much more skill than the current one(which shows none).  

Posted by Alex R

also just spoke to sky , apparently she got an email about her account sharing to pk , so admins knew about it , yet they let her keep her spot , ridiculous. Unfair advantage over everyone else , I'm guessing account sharing is allowed now then ?? Fair enough they can't go back and change the leaderboard or whatever but they should at least reset her , and rewl
Is it really that hard to just keep the game fair ._. Or do the admins/management just not care anymore?

i think that it has nothing to do with 'not caring'

some could be wrong but
-involves high admin to deal with it. (to check sensitive parts)
-need reports to check her IP and logs. (kind of invading privacy)
-all the decision are final, they won't take away her trophy. (many examples from gsts)
-they can ban her though. idk about reset since sharing acct is common.
as of now, all we could do is gather up any evidences and notify admins.
we can hope that things go fair and admins should warn all the players.  

Posted by Areo

Mob pking is inevitable. They will just take it to mod entrance if the overworld became a no pk zone. Overall, just consistently kill. These mob pkers have very little stamina. You'll easily place in the top 25 if you're consistent, 300-500 a day.

you're right about it being inevitable, but the fact that all towers are designed to be neutral or against the favor of PKers doesn't really help lol (I mean that most towers take hours to give you a consistent amount of kills, almost like they don't want you PKing towers).  

This is why the PK community continues to decay. Too many boosters and greedy players that lack skill. Trust me when I say this; not every pker does this. There's a small percentage that sacrifice their thumbs to be one of the best pker's in Classic.

Punishment for account sharing / boosting should be taken very seriously and consequences must be enforced (Bans - Reset Kills). Evidence is quite clear with the MAC addresses tied into an IP address and the countries the players are in switching frequently.  

Add a kill limit per day maybe?  

Posted by Kosiris

you're right about it being inevitable, but the fact that all towers are designed to be neutral or against the favor of PKers doesn't really help lol (I mean that most towers take hours to give you a consistent amount of kills, almost like they don't want you PKing towers).

Not really, I get about 200-250 per hour at mod, if I am focused(not pming, afking, etc.)

I can see what you mean by that, the only tower near neutral is mod. They aren't really designed to be pked is the thing; they are designed to be attacked by guilds. That isn't to say they don't want towers being pked, it's just that isn't their main purpose.

Most towers are heavily favoring the defending side, but two in particular favor them against pkers(Destiny, Sardon). The instant SD spikes can make it very difficult to pk if you aren't vigilant in guarding the door.

Kinda got off topic, to summary would be
I agree, towers being heavily vantaged definitely doesn't help the situation.

Posted by Reemas

Add a kill limit per day maybe?

Limiting people like that wouldn't really solve the problem. If you don't put it astronomically high(like at 3k), then regular pkers will get limited by it. Besides that, limiting people has all sorts of weird implications.

Spoiler

also, sorry for knocking this thread way off track from account sharing.

 

I agree with somehow incorporating deaths into the PK scoreboard and turning into a point system instead of a flat kill count. I honestly laughed a little when i realized BKs got a point system before PKs Deaths caused by Baddies can be excluded from this calculation.

and/or

I would like see something like what was added to GS, for pking: a resettable "hits dealt/taken" counter and ratio; or hits per death ratio; or kills per death ratio. when you say "showpks"