Posted by 5hift

This is totally unrealistic as there will never be no radical anything.

You can dream but its still a dream.

All we can hope to do is improve our security to try and prevent these sorts of things from happening.



Hmmm I wonder why they are constantly under attack...

many conflicts are over territory and not necessarily religion  

Posted by Pokki

many conflicts are over territory and not necessarily religion

Lol ISIS literally wants to capture territory for religious reasons I thought this was common knowledge at this point?

Other countries see this as an opportunity to get a cut of that land by using ISIS as an excuse to go in and get their hands dirty.

So yeah, at the core of this I'd say religion plays a pretty big part.  

Posted by 5hift

Lol ISIS literally wants to capture territory for religious reasons I thought this was common knowledge at this point?

Other countries see this as an opportunity to get a cut of that land by using ISIS as an excuse to go in and get their hands dirty.

So yeah, at the core of this I'd say religion plays a pretty big part.

uh well did you think about the territorial conflict between palestine and israel that has been occurring for years and has nothing to do with religion?  

Posted by Pokki

uh well did you think about the territorial conflict between palestine and israel that has been occurring for years and has nothing to do with religion?

that's not terrorism, that's a war between Palestine and Israel. And yea, religion is the main reason they want the land.  

Posted by Pokki

uh well did you think about the territorial conflict between palestine and israel that has been occurring for years and has nothing to do with religion?

Are you ****ing kidding me? That has everything to do with religion.

Christians, Jews and Muslims have been fighting over that land for literally thousands of years because each one of them believe that they rightfully own it. There's this thing that you may not know about called the Crusades. Yeah it was this terrible series of wars that pretty much resulted in this Christian vs. Muslim **** that we have to put up with today.

It was only after WWII when the UN had the GENIUS idea of just taking that land and giving it to whoever they wanted without thinking of the possible repercussions it could have.

It honestly would've been easier to just force open an underwater volcano to create a new island for them.  

Posted by 5hift

Are you ****ing kidding me? That has everything to do with religion.

Christians, Jews and Muslims have been fighting over that land for literally thousands of years because each one of them believe that they rightfully own it. There's this thing that you may not know about called the Crusades.

It was only after WWII where the UN had the GENIUS idea of just taking land and giving it to whoever they wanted without thinking of the possible repercussions it could have.

It honestly would've been easier to just force open an underwater volcano to create a new island for them.

oops i guess my source wasn't reliable
i'll accept the L
but i'm sure there are still conflicts that just deal with land in the middle east  

Posted by PigParty

Christians kill people and commit crimes too. They aren't exempt, even if you would love to paint the picture that way. Pastors have been sex offenders and murdered people. Christians have committed terrorist acts at places like abortion centers.

I'd also rather live with 1,000 whites over 1,000 blacks and 1,000 rich people over 1,000 poor people. I can't imagine that you actually believe your example makes any sense towards your point.

Just saying "Christians aren't perfect" does not exempt the atrocities that you see in these terror attacks by Muslims. I'm fully aware Christians aren't perfect, but you're much safer in a city filled with 1000 random Christians than you are with 1000 random Muslims. Not even close. The only point I'm trying to prove is that there is a systematic problem within the religion and many (not most) of those who follow it.

Saying things like "Christianity was just like this in the past! The crusades!!" only help prove my point. If modern-day Islam is the same thing as Christianity from 2000 years ago, there's a big problem with Islam and its modernization.  

Posted by Pokki

oops i guess my source wasn't reliable
i'll accept the L
but i'm sure there are still conflicts that just deal with land in the middle east

Whatever these reasons are you can not deny that there is a heavy Christan/Jew vs. Muslim stigma that has lasted centuries.

Modern war has only strengthened these rivalries and it'll only get worse if we keep ignoring things like this attack.  

Posted by Fulgore

Just saying "Christians aren't perfect" does not exempt the atrocities that you see in these terror attacks by Muslims. I'm fully aware Christians aren't perfect, but you're much safer in a city filled with 1000 random Christians than you are with 1000 random Muslims. Not even close. The only point I'm trying to prove is that there is a systematic problem within the religion and many (not most) of those who follow it.

No it's not. I'm as safe in America living with 1,000 Christians as I am living with 1,000 Muslims. I'm not, however, as safe living with 1,000 Muslims in Syria as I am living with 1,000 Christians or Muslims in America. My point should be pretty easily interpreted.

Posted by Fulgore

Saying things like "Christianity was just like this in the past! The crusades!!" only help prove my point. If modern-day Islam is the same thing as Christianity from 2000 years ago, there's a big problem with Islam and its modernization.

Much of the racism in America was fed by Christianity. The KKK and Skinheads have and still use Christianity as the foundation/justification for their beliefs. The difference is that America is a developed country and has been able to minimize the racist beliefs and can prevent the spread of those ideologies now. Middle-Eastern countries haven't had that capability, which has allowed the radical ideology to spread and grow. America imposes law and order, which prevents current KKK/Skinheads from committing the acts they otherwise would commit. There's not a lot of law and order in many Middle-Eastern countries, and therefore these violent terroristic groups have been able to fester.  

Posted by Colin

The only positive thing that's come from Islam is the terror attack that caused Ariana to cancel her awful tour

Why did you find the need to bring something like that up? How about have some respect to those who died instead of being so ignorant towards things.

People have been doing great things today in England with giving free transport, food, medical help etc. Everyone is being unified which is a great thing but why are people blaming trump and **** on the attacks? Like previously said its pretty selfish trying to bring the American president into it again.

Be grateful you still have loved ones around you and be positive instead of being ignorant on some forums  

Yeah NGL Colin that post was on par with the ****** on CBS who said this ****:

 

Posted by 5hift

Yeah NGL Colin that post was on par with the ****** on CBS who said this ****:

Even more ****ed up it was a concert that was attended by, by lots of young kids and their parents...Casualties that have been identified are an 8yr old and a 15 yr old.  

That's why I said I wish they had the decency to target her instead of the audience (little kids).

Blowing my comment out of proportion.  

Posted by 5hift

Yeah NGL Colin that post was on par with the ****** on CBS who said this ****:

CBS and other news outlets the asshole claims to work for came out and said he isn't employed at any of them and they condemned his remarks.

Posted by Colin

That's why I said I wish they had the decency to target her instead of the audience (little kids).

Blowing my comment out of proportion.

not blowing it out of proportion at all. Just calling out the insensitivity in the comment. Rather than wishing death on a different innocent person, try just being sympathetic and respectful towards those that actually lost their lives and were hurt by it.  

UPDATE: England terror threat level has been moved to critical in the last half hour, this rarely happens and is only ever done when investigators have evidence. This is only the third time in England it has been raised to critical, ever. The military will now be stationed across major cities to support police and they believe there could be more attackers out there.