Posted by Chelterrar

You still didn't wake up? The only thing America has left is it's military and it's big companies and probably it's nuclear weapons. Yet education is horrible and unfair, there are basically no consumer and employee rights, gun laws have failed to be enforced got ages, China is starting to buy more and more companies, the highest depth in human history, and so on. America isn't the superpower it used to be.

america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.  

Ego much. Like saying North Korea is a superpower because it takes no notice of other countries either.  

Posted by G Fatal

Ego much. Like saying North Korea is a superpower because it takes no notice of other countries either.

how am i wrong?  

Posted by Crono

how am i wrong?

You're not wrong, but they're not the only superpowers in the world whether they make this and that doesn't make a country bigger or better, at end of day sure they may be topdogs in space etc but anyone could still bomb or kill lots of people there.. Money won't stop that.  

Posted by G Fatal

You're not wrong, but they're not the only superpowers in the world whether they make this and that doesn't make a country bigger or better, at end of day sure they may be topdogs in space etc but anyone could still bomb or kill lots of people there.. Money won't stop that.

i didnt say they were the only superpower, im saying they are the top superpower atm because they are.  

We left, and it was for the best.

It was getting to the point where it wasn't only the farewell trade party we were in the European Union for. We were starting to get bossed around, and told what to do because of some uncontrolled leaders were in-charge of our country. So we decided to take back what is rightfully ours. Great Britain.

However, leaving the EU will result in failure to travel round Europe freely without a visa.
So making it harder for businesses, and then the pound(£) will eventually drop, as it is already and people who are mad rich, will go mad skint.

As a consultative of a British person myself, i am happy to say i want to leave the EU.

If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

They also want a European army to form in 2 years if we were to stay, and all young men/women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train to defend their own country. Which most people don't want to do. And have to fight, for what is now not, rightfully there's (anymore).

Posted by Crono

america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.

RaCaRaCa the president of USA has the most deadly, explosive, nuclear bombs in the world. And can be activated/shot at in a matter of a hand-print in a box located secretly in the white house somewhere.  

Posted by SammyPs

If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

So?  

Posted by Dusty

So?

oh dusty, so innocent and naive~  

Posted by SammyPs

If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims

Ignore anyone who tells you you're "racist" or prejudice when you say that, too... Multiculturalism doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have concerns for what's best for your society. I think it's a joke how everyone who voted Leave is being stereotyped by the media as clueless bigots.

The media (at least in America) seems to also be taking advantage of the obvious, immediate setbacks from this. Of course the British pound was going to drop. Did anyone not expect that if Leave won the vote? That shouldn't come as a surprise or be used to fuel any sort of hysteria... Of course there would be several inconveniences and consequences, I've heard it should take more than two years for Britain to really stabilize economically again.  

Posted by SammyPs

It was getting to the point where it wasn't only the farewell trade party we were in the European Union for. We were starting to get bossed around, and told what to do because of some uncontrolled leaders were in-charge of our country. So we decided to take back what is rightfully ours. Great Britain.

Bossed around? Give examples. The rules that the EU set were for the most part fair and to me seemed smart.

Posted by SammyPs

However, leaving the EU will result in failure to travel round Europe freely without a visa.
So making it harder for businesses, and then the pound(£) will eventually drop, as it is already and people who are mad rich, will go mad skint.

And the people who are mad skint will become homeless. This isn't just going to effect the rich, it's going to have a massive impact on everyone.

Posted by SammyPs

If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

Muslims aren't even coming from the EU so let me stop you right there.

But who the **** cares if our country becomes largely populated by immigrants. As long as they speak English and contribute to our country then is there really a problem? Most of them are friendly, educated people coming here to work because they're better off here than in their own country and end up contributing billions to our economy every year. 98% of our country is not built on so we have plenty of room for them.

Posted by SammyPs

They also want a European army to form in 2 years if we were to stay, and all young men/women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train to defend their own country. Which most people don't want to do. And have to fight, for what is now not, rightfully there's (anymore).

That is simply not true, where are you getting your facts from??? A European Army is a possibility but hasn't even been properly discussed and there is literally zero chance that "all young men and women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train". Even if it did (which it never would) the UK are in no way obligated to join or partake in it.  

@Immigration/Migrants comments majority was voting simply because there is vast areas around UK that most of people in the place are actually not even from the uk(obviously not all) and It isn't just that its also because we are overpopulating the UK and majority of people coming over go through places like Turkey/Greece/Germany/France etc just to get to UK as more prospect living here(Sure other countries take some in-but feels like we get big part) and because of this we are destroying large landscapes of nice places just to build more houses.

I work with a big company and like nearly half of people there are polish-Nothing against them, most are really hard workers and speak English so isn't that we just don't want foreigners in UK(of course they'd be one's who are racist and voted for that reason)-but that EU was pretty much bullying us with clauses that our government accepted and we was paying like 100's of millions to eu countries each week while taking in immigrants/migrants. -Even the settlement that they will do will most likely con us off(Doesn't really help with smug Farage trolling EU parliament)


Also On controlling our own laws etc is a great thing for UK there is quite a few laws that have made big companies go bankrupt- I.e The Eu has a ruling that stopped our government being able to rescue businesses even if they could -Closest probably the Steel Works(That may be saved due to voting out now-So yes saves many jobs!)
With leaving the Eu it doesn't necessarily mean we can't still trade with them-they will still need us for sure as we'll need them and money talks..but it also allows the UK into the open market where we can do trading with likes of China/USA etc that some of them we previously couldn't(Not at a large scale anyway)


Personally think are better out of it, it will take us years to get back up but overall I reckon we will come out better for it, while the EU itself will eventually probably end up nomore(Hence why they were all ****ting it-and asking us to stay at first) Only real downfall is the 2/3years that prices will be higher/taxes etc higher but after that the pound will rise up again as it's still strong currency.  

Posted by Crono

oh dusty, so innocent and naive~

Just as an American who lives in a very diverse area I don't get it. Sounds a bit paranoid, "we want to stop them from coming in or else they'll have a say in things!"  

Posted by Dusty

Just as an American who lives in a very diverse area I don't get it. Sounds a bit paranoid, "we want to stop them from coming in or else they'll have a say in things!"

the type of immigration the EU gets is not of the same quality as that of the US. you guys get more skilled labor/educated folks due to immigration laws whereas the EU is getting floods of unskilled people and "refugees" that need to be trained and assimilated. crime and **** is heavily associated with MENA immigration in general here in Europe.  

Posted by G Fatal

@Immigration/Migrants comments majority was voting simply because there is vast areas around UK that most of people in the place are actually not even from the uk(obviously not all) and It isn't just that its also because we are overpopulating the UK and majority of people coming over go through places like Turkey/Greece/Germany/France etc just to get to UK as more prospect living here(Sure other countries take some in-but feels like we get big part) and because of this we are destroying large landscapes of nice places just to build more houses.

There's a lot of immigrants around my area and I don't really see the problem, if anything they're a lot nicer than the English people living in my area.

How are we overpopulating the UK?? As I said only 2% of it is built on. We aren't running out of space anytime soon so we can afford to lose a little land, we're not really destroying "large landscapes".

Posted by G Fatal

I work with a big company and like nearly half of people there are polish-Nothing against them, most are really hard workers and speak English so isn't that we just don't want foreigners in UK(of course they'd be one's who are racist and voted for that reason)-but that EU was pretty much bullying us with clauses that our government accepted and we was paying like 100's of millions to eu countries each week while taking in immigrants/migrants. -Even the settlement that they will do will most likely con us off(Doesn't really help with smug Farage trolling EU parliament)

Yes, we're paying millions to the EU for benefits that greatly assist our country and economy. The EU acts as a service, we pay them money and they benefit us in return.

You can consider migrants a negative externality if you don't like them but they contribute billions to our economy every year so they are good for the country as a whole.

Posted by G Fatal

Also On controlling our own laws etc is a great thing for UK there is quite a few laws that have made big companies go bankrupt- I.e The Eu has a ruling that stopped our government being able to rescue businesses even if they could -Closest probably the Steel Works(That may be saved due to voting out now-So yes saves many jobs!)
With leaving the Eu it doesn't necessarily mean we can't still trade with them-they will still need us for sure as we'll need them and money talks..but it also allows the UK into the open market where we can do trading with likes of China/USA etc that some of them we previously couldn't(Not at a large scale anyway)

The steel works didn't close down due to the EU. It closed down because we can import steel from places like China for a fraction of the price of the steel here meaning they were making massive losses, leaving the EU isn't going to change that. Even if it saved jobs it won't save as many that are most likely going to be lost if we do go into a recession when we actually leave.

Posted by G Fatal

Personally think are better out of it, it will take us years to get back up but overall I reckon we will come out better for it, while the EU itself will eventually probably end up nomore(Hence why they were all ****ting it-and asking us to stay at first) Only real downfall is the 2/3years that prices will be higher/taxes etc higher but after that the pound will rise up again as it's still strong currency.

Of course they didn't want us to leave. Our relationship with the EU is mutually beneficial.

There's way more downfalls than that.

• You will have less money
• Economic shock
• Less jobs, 3 million jobs in the EU are linked with trade between the EU
• Energy bills will rise
• Quality of goods and services will most likely decrease
• Harder to study abroad
• UK will no longer receive money for things such as university research
• EU regulation has resulted in the country being far greener than it would have been
• A lot of British farmers will go out of business with out CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)
• 73% of our farming exports go to the EU. While it's likely we will negotiate trade deals they won't be as good, the EU aren't going to allow us to have the benefits of the EU without paying a fee
• Less growth in the economy

 

Posted by Crono

america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.