Posted by GOAT

If you take GST wins and UN sparring out of the equation would what you posted make them worth mentioning today?

I didn't mention them, that was you
But they have been one of the most relevant guilds on the game  

Posted by rickclops

Sarah and Dae, especially Dae should be banned from GST forever. It's not fair and in no way skill based trying to fight them.

He's a sub, if we ever had to use him and he was lagging like that then I'd ask to use someone else  

Posted by rickclops

Sarah and Dae, especially Dae should be banned from GST forever. It's not fair and in no way skill based trying to fight them.

Don't see what the problem is. Sure it's annoying but it's not like they're impossible to beat.  

Posted by Striken

Don't see what the problem is. Sure it's annoying but it's not like they're impossible to beat.

ffs.  

Posted by Striken

Don't see what the problem is. Sure it's annoying but it's not like they're impossible to beat.

Not to throw gas on the fire but I think experienced sparrers who know how to play with delay and skipping bring so much randomness to the fighting. Ghosting through people, hitting people from yards away. I'm aware that these things are simply because the person did hit or dodge you and it just shows up weird for the other players, but there you have it.

Arguable if its an advantage, in my opinion its ridiculous though, but I'm not the best sparrer or guildsparrer so not a big authority on the subject.

Don't agree that they should be banned, at least in the cases where it seems legit, like Sarah. Haven't seen a single person from Europe, even on iDev, behave like Dae does in game, but maybe its just one of those things.

EDIT: Side note: those were some good spars vs Alumni, I liked it except the endgame.  

Posted by Striken

Don't see what the problem is. Sure it's annoying but it's not like they're impossible to beat.

Agreed to an extend... Also they're pretty useless for the start of the GS since they're so laggy that they can't even help their team mates out if they're getting teamed... So you guys should use that to your advantage...Also if they're laggy on your screen that means you're lagggy on theirs.

But I wouldn't mind seeing a lag cap because I think the way Kosma and Clops describe it is that it was teleporting...which is like crazy as hell and insanely hard to hit.

In regards to Sarah I think she delays more than lag because her movements are normal...just predict her.  

Posted by Kuz

Agreed. Also they're pretty useless for the start of the GS since they're so laggy that they can't even help their team mates out if they're getting teamed... So you guys should use that to your advantage...Also if they're laggy on your screen that means you're lagggy on theirs.

I wish I recorded. I am not complaining but it was pretty terrible today, it wasn't even sparring. I had fun sparring them but to say you don't see the problem is a pretty ridiculous statement.  

Posted by James205

I wish I recorded. I am not complaining but it was pretty terrible today, it wasn't even sparring. I had fun sparring them but to say you don't see the problem is a pretty ridiculous statement.

Yeah I editted my post before you posted your reply because I didn't read what Kosma said. But yeah there should be a lag limit...I thought it was just minor lag similar to aboods...but you guys describe it like it's a lot worse so idk i guess i'd have to be there to judge. But #LagLimitPlease  

Posted by Kuz

Yeah I editted my post before you posted your reply because I didn't read what Kosma said.

Usually they aren't that bad, today was just like epic bad. Still had fun though and hopefully in GST it's not like that.

Best way I can describe it was they both moved like this (along with ghost hits) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJyIvVPS0eI  

Posted by James205

Usually they aren't that bad, today was just like epic bad. Still had fun though and hopefully in GST it's not like that.

Best way I can describe it was they both moved like this (along with ghost hits) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJyIvVPS0eI

Oohh if it's like that then I think they'd be DQ'd at GST. The rule is if you are frozen and cannot be hit then you get DQ'd I think (well that's what one of the admins told me).

Yeah if it's like that you can't really predict...my bad I misunderstood the scale of the lag you guys were referring to.  

Posted by Kosma

Not to throw gas on the fire but I think experienced sparrers who know how to play with delay and skipping bring so much randomness to the fighting. Ghosting through people, hitting people from yards away. I'm aware that these things are simply because the person did hit or dodge you and it just shows up weird for the other players, but there you have it.

Arguable if its an advantage, in my opinion its ridiculous though, but I'm not the best sparrer or guildsparrer so not a big authority on the subject.

Don't agree that they should be banned, at least in the cases where it seems legit, like Sarah. Haven't seen a single person from Europe, even on iDev, behave like Dae does in game, but maybe its just one of those things.

EDIT: Side note: those were some good spars vs Alumni, I liked it except the endgame.

Literally the first time he's lagged that bad lol, you're acting as if you've never had a day where you're lagging bad  

Wtf you are complaining about that rare time I'm lag spiking when there are 4K+ on?? I'm sure I'm not the only one lagging when 4k are on and you are talking as if I lag 24/7. Spar me when less are on I don't even lag, wish I could record but I'm not jail broken anymore though I uploaded plenty of videos of myself sparring and I wasn't lagging. Btw if you see someone lagging it's reciprocal. If it wasn't a practice spar I wouldn't have joined if I lagged.  

Posted by Kosma

Don't agree that they should be banned, at least in the cases where it seems legit, like Sarah. Haven't seen a single person from Europe, even on iDev, behave like Dae does in game, but maybe its just one of those things.

elaborate on this if possible, just curious.  

Posted by Sarah_

Wtf you are complaining about that rare time I'm lag spiking when there are 4K+ on?? I'm sure I'm not the only one lagging when 4k are on and you are talking as if I lag 24/7. Spar me when less are on I don't even lag, wish I could record but I'm not jail broken anymore though I uploaded plenty of videos of myself sparring and I wasn't lagging. Btw if you see someone lagging it's reciprocal. If it wasn't a practice spar I wouldn't have joined if I lagged.

No one is complaining people are saying if its like that at gst it shouldnt be allowed. You were lagging really really bad and people have the right to be vocal about it. It becomes a game where you dont know how you won or how you lost which isnt even sparring at that point.  

Posted by eko

Literally the first time he's lagged that bad lol, you're acting as if you've never had a day where you're lagging bad

For me he's been skipping for weeks, but yeah the server itself been real ****ty the past day or two, I'm not basing my comment on one practice spar. I was just answering the question Striken asked. Whether it's me or Dae skipping was beside my point.