Posted by MrSimons

Like I said, how would you understand, you are privileged and couldn't comprehend the problems that otherkin and nonbinarys face. The level of oppression that someone suffers from having to select "other" as their gender is seriously on par with slavery.

I feel like Simons is just messing with everybody.

Posted by Draenin

You seem to be in the camp that believes anything non-heteronormative should be classified as a disorder, and I'm not even going to waste time responding to that nonsense.

Well I'm sorry that I think a small number of isolated cases in the span of a good century or more is grounds for a disorder.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

I feel like Simons is just messing with everybody.

I am not. I take the topic of gender very seriously and I expect all the other preteen delinquents here to do the same, maybe they will open their eyes to their true non binary gender like I did. Through the enlightenment process I discovered I was not male, but a demigirl agender (half girl, half nothing. for you filthy arrogant cishet ****lords out there).  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Well I'm sorry that I think a small number of isolated cases in the span of a good century or more is grounds for a disorder.

If you've been to certain websites on the internet, you'll know that there's more than just a few people who fit into these categories.

Thinking someone else has a disorder if they're not just like you has led to a lot of really sad and terrible situations for a lot of people. And really, it's just going to make you angry and bitter about something that you can't change and isn't your business to begin with. None of this is going away, so deal with it.  

How is this crap still burning?  

Please implement the stuff I wanted on the very first post. Just a lil gray circle with the word Other underneath in the gender options. And add darker skinned heads than there are now in the basic head choices in the free version of olwest  

Posted by Draenin

If you've been to certain websites on the internet, you'll know that there's more than just a few people who fit into these categories.

Thinking someone else has a disorder if they're not just like you has led to a lot of really sad and terrible situations for a lot of people. And really, it's just going to make you angry and bitter about something that you can't change and isn't your business to begin with. None of this is going away, so deal with it.

It's still a staggeringly small minority compared to the populace with normal mental health, even when compared to the past century or beyond. There's no point in doing extra work to cater to the small batch of people it'd affect.

Please implement the stuff I wanted on the very first post. Just a lil gray circle with the word Other underneath in the gender options. And add darker skinned heads than there are now in the basic head choices in the free version of olwest

There aren't many black heads to begin and from what I've seen, they're all heads that have been on Graal for years, so you're going to have to make your own or get someone to make them, because the majority of people that do make heads seem to prefer white, peach, yellow or animal heads  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

It's still a staggeringly small minority compared to the populace with normal mental health, even when compared to the past century or beyond. There's no point in doing extra work to cater to the small batch of people it'd affect.

If by extra work do you mean, include the option "other" in gender selections. Because that sounds like something that could take months to add to a site. I seriously do not know where any organization to could find the manpower to get that done. I absolutely agree, it is best we don't waste our time attempting to find ways that a third option could be added to a list of genders, that could require redesigning the entire website, or maybe even reworking how computers even function. What brave soul would even attempt such a feat, do these people here realize that the word "other" includes five letters, we might as well just include a hand written copy of the Holy Bible with every gender selection if we are going to be doing all that work.

I do not believe we could ever find the time or recourses to add an "other" option to gender selections.

Also, as OP requested, I have made a darker skinned head so that People of Color are able to play graal now. I don't understand how we went so long not realizing that we hadn't made any black heads, its no wonder there are so few People of Color on Graal, how were they supposed to play if they can't have a black head.

http://gyazo.com/cc1697bf028d051e30de8587c40bbeaf.png (Unsupported image host)  

It's about representation and accessability. Two things that have been distorted twisted manipulated and conspired on for a long time  

Posted by Multipas*

It's about representation and accessability. Two things that have been distorted twisted manipulated and conspired on for a long time

Up until like a 100 years ago.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

There's no point in doing extra work to cater to the small batch of people it'd affect.

I think this is by far the most cogent point here. The development team are already so incredibly overworked that they can't take any time to focus on something like this. Does anyone have ANY idea the amount of effort it takes to add one single solitary string of code to add one more option to a drop down menu?

Besides, PC-Graal had a third option in profiles. Some of you who played will remember the uproar that used to cause. For ages there were threads on the OGCC demanding the third option to be removed. It created such an unnecessary divide in the community as well. Those who chose the ''unknown'' option in their profile were routinely shamed as being mentally ill. I think two players committed suicide over it. So yes, a 3rd option is not worth the effort or headaches that would arise. It wouldn't be the same game anymore.  

Such trolling, much wow.  

Posted by MrSimons

I don't understand how we went so long not realizing that we hadn't made any black heads, its no wonder there are so few People of Color on Graal, how were they supposed to play if they can't have a black head.

I know you're joking around but there's actually a pretty neat history behind black Graalians and how they represented themselves early on vs mid 2000s. Neo Jenova is a ****ing legend.  

Posted by Crono

I know you're joking around but there's actually a pretty neat history behind black Graalians and how they represented themselves early on vs mid 2000s. Neo Jenova is a ****ing legend.

****!! I wanna see that Neo Jenova dude so bad. How is he so well respected among every pc sparrers and became a legend? Its like as almost if you guys are all worshipping him.  

the other gender option= holocaust+slavery+pushing a bus full of toddlers and kittens off a bridge  

Posted by Zetectic

****!! I wanna see that Neo Jenova dude so bad. How is he so well respected among every pc sparrers and became a legend? Its like as almost if you guys are all worshipping him.

lol