Posted by Striken

I'd say it's just a select amount of people, not the majority.

Name and shame!  

Livid I spar so many people everyday in my gh and I never block or kick anybody unless there's a reason to. You were being an ass, anybody who was there saw you trying to troll me by constantly saying how my phone wasn't broken and how I was a liar when I was clearly freezing every 10 seconds for a long ass time. And u were saying I was freezing on purpose? Which makes no sense. Whatever regardless you were treated the way you were because you wanted to keep argueing about it and I didn't so I just blocked you and sparred somebody else who could wait for me to unfreeze rather then say I was freezing on purpose

only game where you don't get judged by skill
Thought what I meant was obvious. I was going off about how all people do is chatt all day rather than spar. So by saying it's the only game where you aren't judged by skill I just meant people judge eachother by social skills and reputation even more than they care about skill WHICH IS WEIRD.
Legit graal sparrers care more about social reputation than skill. (Maybe I'm wrong) but I'm just making statements hoping to change this weird society where alot of people play 4 hours a day but spar 5-20 times per day at most

and there's a difference between saying it like it is and bein mean/stupid
If I were to say, sarah sucks she only wins because of delay. That would be mean and false. Sarah is obviously good with or without delay.
Now if I were to say Sarah's delay contributes to her insane ratio, and without it she probably wouldn't have the crazy ratio she has. That would just be straight up a real opinion that many might agree with.

If I were to say I'm the 11th best sparrer ever, that would be false(I never said that I just need to be more desciptive I guess because nobody can read what I said correctly)
I named a list of sparrers who are definitely better than me from what I see. Then I said if anybody else wants to prove to be better than me, whenever I'm online Ill be ready if you want to series or just spar a bunch.

Also another mis conception is that I think everybody should just spar me. no. My opinion is that on the off season of GST (every day before and after gst) people should 1vs1 and guild spar more. People want prizes?
Okay so you want a hat on a video game. That's cool I guess but if that's your only motive to spar, I'm confused. It's just a hat. I spar to try my best to dominate 1vs1, I don't see why you need a stupid hat prize for motivation  

Qes many of us have been playing for years and spar is not as interesting as it once was. U can see all those new guys sparing 24/7 but threw time things change  

Posted by toich01

Qes many of us have been playing for years and spar is not as interesting as it once was. U can see all those new guys sparing 24/7 but threw time things change

I've been sparring for 5 years. When I get bored of sparring I work on my guild DoT. I guess I'm different..? I don't see how the feeling winning spars gives you can go away  

I agree with what you're trying to do, but I disagree with how you'e going about doing it. I too would like to see the sparring community flourishing again, but insulting people, or trying to tell people that their way of playing Graal is "wrong" doesn't accomplish anything.

Graal is designed to be social, as well as competitive. I don't understand why you make it seem like doing anything other than sparring is a waste of time. You can hide behind the notion that "it's just my opinion", but that doesn't explain why you express said opinion as fact.

Personally I enjoy towering and pking. Not as much as sparring, but they're a nice change when the server isn't doing so well. Calling these things a "waste of time" is a pretty egotistical thing to say, implying that sparring is the only thing worth doing on Graal.

Other than that, feel free to send me a guild house invite if you'd like to series. Our last series was interrupted at 3-3 I believe by horrible server lag.  

I'm still trying to figure out where QeS gets this idea that the only way the spar community can function is if everyone are huge assholes.

It was never like that on original PC Graal - as you can see from iClassic with most of the old players knowing each other and chatting frequently, even if they've been away for years. I came back and logged into iClassic for the first time in January and immediately met up with like 10-15 people who I knew in the old days and none of them were assholes, then or now.

Not everybody are huge assholes right now, clearly, or nobody would be arguing with QeS about this in the first place.

So where is this attitude even coming from? If this really was ever a thing, only thing I can fathom is that the iDevice community before a bunch of PC players started playing iClassic used to be essentially a bunch of huge assholes. But even then, knowing nothing about the community and not even knowing who played iClassic back then and who didn't, I highly doubt that was the case...

So QeS, want to enlighten us? Where did you get this completely flawed view of iClassic where every sparrer (especially the good ones,) were apparently massive assholes to eachother 24/7 and never communicated except to say "1v1"??? Because I'm really confused. And no, "QeS and a single digit amount of other people" is not indicative of the whole spar community.  

I mean towering is fun and all but they should re do the system to make it more competitive and make it so members stay with the same guild. The whole 1k hours thing has gone on for too long.
Nothing wrong with PK if that's what your into, ATLEAST your not wasting time socializing with people you don't know irl all day long and never actually doing anything in graal.(like most of graal does)  

I bet chicks like you Qes.. like seriously.

You're soo coolll.. for sparring like in a game, while you cannot run a block.. waow.. m8 fite me irl hand to hand combat, i workout thrice a week, fite me bsh. jk  

@Albie you said it best, qes is a very talented at sparring.

@qes at one point I used to be very cocky in my prime in early 2000, after I was in Demigod and Messiah, I was telling people I was the best and challenged everyone online so I could prove it to myself. Back then the player count was much smaller obviously, however this game has always been a social one for me. Without it being social it wouldn't be as popular or come near as far as it has imo. Sparring isn't all Graal is about to the general population. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't really enjoy much else except sparring and social part. But keep in mind, it's okay to have friendly competition. =) (Not trying to preach, js.)  

Posted by qes

I've been sparring for 5 years. When I get bored of sparring I work on my guild DoT. I guess I'm different..? I don't see how the feeling winning spars gives you can go away

Either your math is wrong or you're a liar. I remember doing 2vs2 with you, mono(<3), and mimi(<3) in 2011 and you claiming you were a 2011 newbie.  

Posted by Relic

I'm still trying to figure out where QeS gets this idea that the only way the spar community can function is if everyone are huge assholes.

It was never like that on original PC Graal - as you can see from iClassic with most of the old players knowing each other and chatting frequently, even if they've been away for years. I came back and logged into iClassic for the first time in January and immediately met up with like 10-15 people who I knew in the old days and none of them were assholes, then or now.

Not everybody are huge assholes right now, clearly, or nobody would be arguing with QeS about this in the first place.

So where is this attitude even coming from? If this really was ever a thing, only thing I can fathom is that the iDevice community before a bunch of PC players started playing iClassic used to be essentially a bunch of huge assholes. But even then, knowing nothing about the community and not even knowing who played iClassic back then and who didn't, I highly doubt that was the case...

So QeS, want to enlighten us? Where did you get this completely flawed view of iClassic where every sparrer (especially the good ones,) were apparently massive assholes to eachother 24/7 and never communicated except to say "1v1"??? Because I'm really confused. And no, "QeS and a single digit amount of other people" is not indicative of the whole spar community.

I believe Qes thinks that in order to be competitive you must think you're the best and express you're the best no matter if its the truth or not  

Posted by Papi

I believe Qes thinks that in order to be competitive you must think you're the best and express you're the best no matter if its the truth or not

Everyone who becomes the best always told themselves they were the best, so he wouldn't be far off.

But here's a fun fact for Qes who mentioned Warhawk (WH). Around 2006-2007 WH used to run around UN saying he was the best at sparring in the spar room with a BTK tag on. I begged Hardkore (HK) to let me kick him cause he made us look bad. HK wouldn't let me, so eventually I said if he is going to stay in he had to agree to get trained by me and other leaders on how to spar. Back then ratings were 1100 for the low and 2100 for the high. WH had 1450-1550.

Graal has been around for quite sometime, in fact it's one of the very first mmorpgs that was graphic based, ever. There have been many great and talented people at sparring that none of us might have heard of who are equally or possibly better than some people we think are bests. It's all opinions it doesn't matter, just try hard and spar if you want but remember to try to have fun and enjoy it too, with others. =p  

Posted by contego

Everyone who becomes the best always told themselves they were the best, so he wouldn't be far off.

But here's a fun fact for Qes who mentioned Warhawk (WH). Around 2006-2007 WH used to run around UN saying he was the best at sparring in the spar room with a BTK tag on. I begged Hardkore (HK) to let me kick him cause he made us look bad. HK wouldn't let me, so eventually I said if he is going to stay in he had to agree to get trained by me and other leaders on how to spar. Back then ratings were 1100 for the low and 2100 for the high. WH had 1450-1550.

Graal has been around for quite sometime, in fact it's one of the very first mmorpgs that was graphic based, ever. There have been many great and talented people at sparring that none of us might have heard of who are equally or possibly better than some people we think are bests. It's all opinions it doesn't matter, just try hard and spar if you want but remember to try to have fun and enjoy it too, with others. =p

Just what classic needs, more tryhards

#barelytries>all  

My thoughts: what is riches and skill with no one to share it with?  

Posted by GOAT

Either your math is wrong or you're a liar. I remember doing 2vs2 with you, mono(<3), and mimi(<3) in 2011 and you claiming you were a 2011 newbie.

Omg this made me die laughing. I was just qes at the time. So Your right I did tell you that, I told everybody that.
In 2009 I played as Spider-Man and I went on to become co leader, then leader of DoT.
My reputation was great as Spider-man I was very young and friendly and just happy to be apart of the spar community sucking up to people who were better than me.
Than in late 2011 I made an account called Qes (secretly) on this account I sparred all day telling people I'm a new (lie, I was Spider-Man, so I've been playing already for over a year) and once I was known for being really good in the spar community, I raged about how I was the greatest because for awhile a lot of people did regard me as one of the greatest in early 2012 when I was 4k-1500 and I was an offensive sparring beast. But I got too cocky, and after awhile my skill declined. In early 2013 Klayton(Ruthless) found out I was qes and Spider-Man and then I admitted it to the sparring community.

So to answer your question with much evidence, I've been here since the week the app came out. And I lied to everybody on my Qes account to troll an start a new guild(ruthless)/ identity(qes)