Ok haven't read most of thread, but I went onto era to check update... WTF has happened to M4 seems so slow and worthless now x-x M4 was just one of them guns that deserved to stay how it was backintheday for even the old players that don't come on much if they popped on in once inawhile they could actual play the game with no problem of overpowered guns as M4 was like the Normal skilled gun... Or maybe its just because i've been on zone and them guns seem alot faster idk D:  

M4 hasn't changed.  

Posted by V.

M4 hasn't changed.

Oh lmao probably because I haven't played in ages it just seems really slow etc mybad.  

Pbp yes bar and souizen no. Bar can be easily beat by pbp. Souizen yes its good but 12 clip.... When its reloading u have a big chance to die. I bet u dont have it so u call it OP.  

If the PBP were to be nerfed, then so would the BAR - if it's easily beaten by it.
I own an M4, Luger and Tachi Scorpion. I can kill most players- whatever their gun. But they're still too powerful.  

Bar needs a freeze nerf. Users are too mobile with it  

Sorry for the bump but this has to be fixed asap. I tried to back to the bar just to discover that its tap fire is super OP. If done correctly it can shoot faster than autofire. Can not have this fix it asap.

Also reading through the entire thread, i think we can all agree on shotgun nerfs  

I think this whole thread can be summed up in this quote

Posted by Rock

Nerf paper. Scissors is fine.

This was my 'favourite quote' in Zodiac for very damn similar reasons -_-  

"I agree to this petition and believe the guns stated above should be nerfed"  

I changed my mind. The Pbp is overpowered. I've been fighting against it and it's extreme. I guess the way I use it is different than others.

Nerf the ROF. The damage is fine, but you can shoot off your rounds too quickly. The freeze is fine too. The ROF is ridiculous. Owning one and saying this should tell you something. Just tweak it down a little.  

No wtf.  

"Nerf the repair tool, its to OP against the defribulators"- paycer BF3  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

"Nerf the repair tool, its to OP against the defribulators"- paycer BF3

Lmao

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Sorry for the bump but this has to be fixed asap. I tried to back to the bar just to discover that its tap fire is super OP. If done correctly it can shoot faster than autofire. Can not have this fix it asap.

Also reading through the entire thread, i think we can all agree on shotgun nerfs

You obviously dont know what you are talking about...get some skill and stop complaining about BAR,with the freeze that BAR currently has,you can beat it with a FAMAS,have u try using FAMAS?  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

"Nerf the repair tool, its to OP against the defribulators"- paycer BF3

Bullcrap, the defibs are a one hit kill while the repair tool takes about 1-2 seconds to get a kill. I think it needs to be changed to this

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

"Nerf the repair tool, its to OP against the tanks and IFV's"- paycer BF3

ahh the good ol days of going suicidal engineer blowtorchin a tank  

Posted by ManBearPig

Lmao



You obviously dont know what you are talking about...get some skill and stop complaining about BAR,with the freeze that BAR currently has,you can beat it with a FAMAS,have u try using FAMAS?

Ohhhhh beleve me i got more skill than you (in bases that is). Keep in mind im a baser and not a sparrer. In spar there would be no problem with that since you have very high freeze vs very little freeze. In bases its a whole different story. I have learned to grow up and deal with BAR. Its a ok when auto firing but with this tap fire thing where it shoots faster than auto. It is a god gun in close quarters and places such as bbz with the tap fire. This = big NO. Also the freeze is a bit too low for BAR in bases.

All im saying is get rid off the faster tap fire crap.

Posted by Shock

I changed my mind. The Pbp is overpowered. I've been fighting against it and it's extreme. I guess the way I use it is different than others.

Nerf the ROF. The damage is fine, but you can shoot off your rounds too quickly. The freeze is fine too. The ROF is ridiculous. Owning one and saying this should tell you something. Just tweak it down a little.

It would still be a overkill gun though. I think it needs to go back to low freeze no stacked damage, and lowish ROF