Posted by SnakeRekon

Okay so; sure we can throw 50 million guns at you, but at the end of the day you're all just going to grab the most powerful and use that, so releasing all those guns is pretty much for nothing.
More shall be released, just be patient.

@Emera, 60 is nothing to the 200+ back in the day

lol just dont keep increasing price maybe if you release a gun better than bar put at same price and decrease bars price  

Posted by lord greg

lol just dont keep increasing price maybe if you release a gun better than bar put at same price and decrease bars price

Better than bar.. x.x
So you want to annoy the 100's of people who already bought a bar for 200k, then lower the price and release one at the same price? o.o;; makes no sense.

Would make more sense just to delete the BAR from the store than your suggestion  

Posted by SnakeRekon

Better than bar.. x.x
So you want to annoy the 100's of people who already bought a bar for 200k, then lower the price and release one at the same price? o.o;; makes no sense.

Would make more sense just to delete the BAR from the store than your suggestion

otherwise you will end up with stupidly high prices for guns which people wont buy. and theres no point making realy bad guns cuz no one will want them  

Posted by lord greg

lol just dont keep increasing price maybe if you release a gun better than bar put at same price and decrease bars price

Genius.

Posted by Billy

English,please? Read what's under my name.

He's basically talking about the computer's performance as opposed to your devices. iDevices, like he said, are generally more susceptible to internet connection lag as opposed to a regular computer on wired connection. They can lag so bad at times that it can be around the same performance as, say, a Windows 98 with 512MB RAM (basically operations it can handle at once), which is very low in retrospect to computers nowadays, which have upwards of 32GB RAM.

In short, the reason iEra lags is because you're playing on an iDevice, which blows internet connection-wise, and only has about 512MB RAM, which is hardly enough for iEra's high playercount. PC doesn't lag because it has more RAM and can handle more players/operations.  

Posted by Talon

Genius.



He's basically talking about the computer's performance as opposed to your devices. iDevices, like he said, are generally more susceptible to internet connection lag as opposed to a regular computer on wired connection. They can lag so bad at times that it can be around the same performance as, say, a Windows 98 with 512MB RAM (basically operations it can handle at once), which is very low in retrospect to computers nowadays, which have upwards of 32GB RAM.

In short, the reason iEra lags is because you're playing on an iDevice, which blows internet connection-wise, and only has about 512MB RAM, which is hardly enough for iEra's high playercount. PC doesn't lag because it has more RAM and can handle more players/operations.

so basically lag is bad  

Posted by lord greg

otherwise you will end up with stupidly high prices for guns which people wont buy. and theres no point making realy bad guns cuz no one will want them

Can you at least type in acceptable English grammar so I can take you seriously? The reason they won't take your suggestion into action is because it would completely defeat the purpose of price-performance value. If you're going to make a gun cheaper and release a better gun at the same price, people with the former gun are going to go up in arms about being ripped off. They paid the same price for a mediocre gun while other people got a better gun for the same price. The BAR doesn't have to be the threshold for top tier gun prices, things are probably going to go higher than it in the future. That doesn't mean everyone's going to buy it though.

Also, guns can be relatively cheap and still cost-efficient - we've seen a ton of them released and buffed lately. The Colt 6 is an amazing gun that can easily compete with M4 and Shipkas, which are leaps and bounds over its price. I'll reiterate what I've said a thousand times on price:performance threads. Price to performance ratio is never the same, and there will be guns that are disproportionate to the norm, if its for better or for worse. Let's use the Colt 6 for example. It has a 30,000 price tag, and sports 7 damage and a clip of 6. If we kept the Shipka at an exact price to performance ratio, then the Shipka would have 28 damage and a clip of 24. If you haven't noticed, guns that are raising in price aren't much better than guns that are considerably lower than it. The BAR isn't and arm and a leg over the Tachi Scorpion for the extra 170.000 you pay for it. The only real upgrade the BAR has on the Scorpion is the extra 2 damage and maybe a higher clip size. When you're into the top tier guns like the Shipka and BAR, the price-performance ratio plummets. At this point, you're just paying the extra 100.000 upgrade to chase that last 0.2 reduction in freeze or that 1 extra damage, which is a horrible P:P ratio, but might still be necessary. A great example is what Skill stated earlier in the thread.

Posted by Skill

Low levels should get better rewards for leveling, and have it gradually decrease as you level.

like it takes 10 secs to mine at 1, 9 at 2, 8.2 at 3, 7.5 at 4, 7 at 5, 6.6 at 6.

The same is applicable to guns. Insanely expensive guns shouldn't have the same price to performance upgrade the Colt has over the Deagle, but rather an upgrade of the same caliber that the BAR has over the Scorpion at a similar price tag. For example, if a BAR was basically a 2 damage upgrade and a bigger mag over the Scorpion for an extra 170.000, then the next upgrade over the BAR should be 245.000 for the same upgraded 1-2 damage and a slightly higher clip size. Again, at this point, you're just paying the extra 100.000 upgrade to chase that last 0.2 reduction in freeze or that 1 extra damage. Guns were not meant to upgrade a hell of a whole lot at high prices.  

Posted by Talon

Can you at least type in acceptable English grammar so I can take you seriously? The reason they won't take your suggestion into action is because it would completely defeat the purpose of price-performance value. If you're going to make a gun cheaper and release a better gun at the same price, people with the former gun are going to go up in arms about being ripped off. They paid the same price for a mediocre gun while other people got a better gun for the same price. The BAR doesn't have to be the threshold for top tier gun prices, things are probably going to go higher than it in the future. That doesn't mean everyone's going to buy it though.

Also, guns can be relatively cheap and still cost-efficient - we've seen a ton of them released and buffed lately. The Colt 6 is an amazing gun that can easily compete with M4 and Shipkas, which are leaps and bounds over its price. I'll reiterate what I've said a thousand times on price:performance threads. Price to performance ratio is never the same, and there will be guns that are disproportionate to the norm, if its for better or for worse. Let's use the Colt 6 for example. It has a 30,000 price tag, and sports 7 damage and a clip of 6. If we kept the Shipka at an exact price to performance ratio, then the Shipka would have 28 damage and a clip of 24. If you haven't noticed, guns that are raising in price aren't much better than guns that are considerably lower than it. The BAR isn't and arm and a leg over the Tachi Scorpion for the extra 170.000 you pay for it. The only real upgrade the BAR has on the Scorpion is the extra 2 damage and maybe a higher clip size. When you're into the top tier guns like the Shipka and BAR, the price-performance ratio plummets. At this point, you're just paying the extra 100.000 upgrade to chase that last 0.2 reduction in freeze or that 1 extra damage, which is a horrible P:P ratio, but might still be necessary. A great example is what Skill stated earlier in the thread.



The same is applicable to guns. Insanely expensive guns shouldn't have the same price to performance upgrade the Colt has over the Deagle, but rather an upgrade of the same caliber that the BAR has over the Scorpion at a similar price tag. For example, if a BAR was basically a 2 damage upgrade and a bigger mag over the Scorpion for an extra 170.000, then the next upgrade over the BAR should be 245.000 for the same upgraded 1-2 damage and a slightly higher clip size. Again, at this point, you're just paying the extra 100.000 upgrade to chase that last 0.2 reduction in freeze or that 1 extra damage. Guns were not meant to upgrade a hell of a whole lot at high prices.

first of all i never knew you were a master of grammer and language and to be honest i fail to see how grammer has anything to do with anything on a forum such as this, also if guns become available better than a bar but cheaper then bar owners will be up in arms at that too  

Did you even bother to read my post in its entirety? You posted 5 minutes after mine, which would probably take you 15 minutes to read and fully understand. Maybe I should just stop making long-winded posts because some idiots on this forum have an attention span of 3 minutes. Here's a tl;dr for you.

1. Grammar is important because it makes you seem less of an idiot than you actually are.
2. Guns aren't better for cheaper, they simply have better cost-efficiency (Google that, it might be too self-explanatory for your IQ to comprehend)
3. All of your posts make you out as an idiot.  

You know. I think napalm is more overpowered than bar. It's being abused a lot in last man standing. I am going 1 vs 1 with someone. This makes it like a sparring match. What do they do? Spam napalm leaving me no where to run due to the ridiculous blast radius range and the damage. Along with that leaving a huge ring of fire which blocks off my escape paths. I saw someone spar with napalm only. It just wasn't fun to watch.  

Posted by Talon

Genius.



He's basically talking about the computer's performance as opposed to your devices. iDevices, like he said, are generally more susceptible to internet connection lag as opposed to a regular computer on wired connection. They can lag so bad at times that it can be around the same performance as, say, a Windows 98 with 512MB RAM (basically operations it can handle at once), which is very low in retrospect to computers nowadays, which have upwards of 32GB RAM.

In short, the reason iEra lags is because you're playing on an iDevice, which blows internet connection-wise, and only has about 512MB RAM, which is hardly enough for iEra's high playercount. PC doesn't lag because it has more RAM and can handle more players/operations.

True but FB Lags way more than iPod iEra.. It's based on player count trust me.. Because I never lag at 5 a.m. because there's a very low player count. I almost won tts,I was the last person but got bar spammed,I came close because there was no lag at all,and Ive never won an event due to lag.(Off-Topic)I have 10 ec due to offers/contests/gst and jazz.  

Posted by Billy

True but FB Lags way more than iPod iEra.. It's based on player count trust me.. Because I never lag at 5 a.m. because there's a very low player count. I almost won tts,I was the last person but got bar spammed,I came close because there was no lag at all,and Ive never won an event due to lag.(Off-Topic)I have 10 ec due to offers/contests/gst and jazz.

Don't you realize, that FB is using Flash Player as a genetic communication between two servers? Even when I play Minecraft (Java) on a browser or some sort of FP game I'll keep get that intense amount of bugs.
@Your Off-Topic quote, I got 16 from GST ^^, PC's EC aren't as valuable as the one's on iEra.  

Posted by NCJohn

Be patient; we have some pretty cool things that are being worked on that you may like.

Like more immature admins? YESSS  

Posted by Era News

Like more immature players? YESSS

fixed.  

In regards to prices;
When I played Final Fantasy 11 a few years back, it was very common to be paying several million more than your current equipment for marginal upgrades, it's the way games work - all these small aspects add up when put together, which is why the cost increases a lot.
From a business perspective, it's logical, there will always be people who strive to be the best and want the best things in order to keep themselves at the top, thus there will always be people paying those top prices. Sure it sucks for the average consumer who will probably never reach that goal without years of work (Yes I fully understand this from the several games i've played) but some items are just not meant for everybody to attain in their game-life time.

I'll give a real big example of this; On FF11 there was this one enemy, he was called Absolute Virtue, the conditions for releasing him were ridiculiously long and he was near impossible to kill without some super secret method that only the creators knew how to do in order to make it killable. It dropped some pretty damn nice items, took several years and many thousands of different theories to actually get a workable kill to get these items, and even then it may even drop one item when you could need upto 64 players to kill it.

Anyways, just an example of a game where items aren't meant for everyone.  

Posted by Johnaudi

fixed.

Dude how is that even funny?