Posted by BaKon

You can thank my arguementive behavior sir. More like me simply disagreeing, causing the Delteria staff to lash out on me.

Can I has your babies PLZ.  

Posted by TarePanda

Can I has your babies PLZ.

I'm on a date with Jester, later.  

Posted by BboyEatsbacon

Classic and Era don't support Graalians, last I checked.

Lol what?  

I heard the development admin of Classic had a major argument with the manager of these forums.  

Posted by Dusty

I never said anything about the actual content, and especially not the quality of it. Just saying it's all been done before. More specifically the idea that Delteria has revolutionized the way it's developed and being approached like a "real game" where other servers have not is silly. There have been plenty of servers in the past with the ambitions and scale of iDelteria, and many have had just as much effort and heart and soul put into them.

Again, not saying iDelteria is a bad server or not, but that it's silly to think it's the first server to do this and that. Graal's been around a very long time, and it's seen many things.

Delteria is probably not the first server to set high ambitions but it's still a big deal because it's -finished- and slated to release. What previous server was released to the public and stayed around? Zodiac, and that was in 2006.  

Posted by Raven

Delteria is probably not the first server to set high ambitions but it's still a big deal because it's -finished- and slated to release. What previous server was released to the public and stayed around? Zodiac, and that was in 2006.

Providence
Graal Kingdoms
Maloria

These were all servers made in the same style that went live. Also, Delteria is not finished yet, nor is it live, so until that happens we should all probably wait until we start assuming it will stay around.  

Posted by Robert.

The Managers of iDelteria have their reasons not to get a sub on here.

Because they want control.  

Posted by -Albus

Providence
Graal Kingdoms
Maloria

These were all servers made in the same style that went live. Also, Delteria is not finished yet, nor is it live, so until that happens we should all probably wait until we start assuming it will stay around.

All those servers you listed were released before Zodiac, and two of them died off.

Delteria isn't a big deal just because it's being slated to release or whether it's gonna get a lot of players or not, it's a big deal because it'll be the first server in seven years with content that isn't directly ripped from another server (referring to iZone, iEra, and iClassic)  

Posted by Imprint

Because they want control.

Is that a bad thing?
God forbid Delteria for having their own website.

Rufus and Twinny run everything on here. I dont see why they cant make a subforum for Delteria since this is a fansite.

You guys should be crying to Rufus about this not Delteria.  

Posted by Raven

Delteria isn't a big deal just because it's being slated to release or whether it's gonna get a lot of players or not, it's a big deal because it'll be the first server in seven years with content that isn't directly ripped from another server (referring to iZone, iEra, and iClassic)

Erm... You do know that a HUGE bulk of iDelteria's gmap is taken from the original Delteria server? And that the game uses the original Delteria server's tileset? And that a few of the dungeons are from the original server? And that the majority of the graphics are from the original server?

It rips just as much content from its parent server as iClassic and iEra did.  

This is what "original Delteria" represented and I think you're misusing that term.



It doesn't matter if iDelteria happened to represent Delteria Dev back on PC in like 2010 because that was all made AFTER Zodiac was first released, and that's what my point hinges on.  

Posted by Raven

This is what "original Delteria" represented and I think you're misusing that term.
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It doesn't matter if iDelteria happened to represent Delteria Dev back on PC in like 2010 because that was all made AFTER Zodiac was first released. My

Yes, that is the original Delteria. But I went under development and took the form of what iDelteria is like now.

Check it out here, in 2007: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...light=delteria

Though that only shows the port(which doesn't seem to have been heavily featured on iDelteria), the rest of the overworld was closed off and is actually the overworld iDelteria has up now. Here's a post from 2006 that shows something you guys are probably more familiar with: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...12&postcount=6



His point is that you can't accuse iClassic and iEra of "ripping content" from their original servers when iDelteria is doing the exact same thing.  

I don't think it can be even considered "ripping" for any of those server's cases. I mean, they are ports to the iDevice from PC, they are SUPPOSED to look and feel alike in some way. Otherwise it would not be called iDelteria.  

Posted by Rexx

Is that a bad thing?
God forbid Delteria for having their own website.

Rufus and Twinny run everything on here. I dont see why they cant make a subforum for Delteria since this is a fansite.

You guys should be crying to Rufus about this not Delteria.

Did a have any commentary on it? It's a fact not an opinion.  

Posted by Dusty

Yes, that is the original Delteria. But I went under development and took the form of what iDelteria is like now.

Check it out here, in 2007: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...light=delteria

Though that only shows the port(which doesn't seem to have been heavily featured on iDelteria), the rest of the overworld was closed off and is actually the overworld iDelteria has up now. Here's a post from 2006 that shows something you guys are probably more familiar with: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...12&postcount=6



His point is that you can't accuse iClassic and iEra of "ripping content" from their original servers when iDelteria is doing the exact same thing.

Better yet, Classic and Era don't pretend to have actually made all of the content that they "ripped off".

Posted by Rexx

Is that a bad thing?
God forbid Delteria for having their own website.

Rufus and Twinny run everything on here. I dont see why they cant make a subforum for Delteria since this is a fansite.

You guys should be crying to Rufus about this not Delteria.

The only sub-forums that they have made are those that have been either released or acknowledged publicly as up-coming servers by Stefan.

The Zone forum was only added ahead of its release date because Stefan posted about it coming soon on Facebook or somewhere. Delteria's had such a roller coaster schedule after the last 12 months that it's hard to say when it will come out. What if Rufus were to add a sub forum and then the server still didn't come out for another 12 months? There's honestly no reason to believe otherwise. Rufus has already said that he'd add a Delteria sub forum once the server was released or announced by Stefan that it is coming soon.