Posted by Mr.$imons

Blind and unnoticed... Do you not understand the punishment? YOU are getting punished not your account. You are getting punished, take it and don't keep going along. I am baffled by your inability to understand this...



Does anyone here even understand the reason for bans...

I dont think you understand the point. He was not aware it was illegal to use multiple accounts and he got a HARSH ban for it. It says nowhere in Graal that what he did is illegal and graal pretty much taunts you with just using your VIP in the first place.
The rule needs to be stated somewhere and he doesn't deserve his ban. You guys realize that kain is a good person and has no real bad intentions. You punish people the learn a lesson and kain obviously already knows the lesson. He was just unaware of an unclear rule  

Wait,Wait,Wait Kain is banned?HALLELUJAH!  

Posted by Kendama

I dont think you understand the point. He was not aware it was illegal to use multiple accounts and he got a HARSH ban for it. It says nowhere in Graal that what he did is illegal and graal pretty much taunts you with just using your VIP in the first place.
The rule needs to be stated somewhere and he doesn't deserve his ban. You guys realize that kain is a good person and has no real bad intentions. You punish people the learn a lesson and kain obviously already knows the lesson. He was just unaware of an unclear rule

i agree that its stupid to give such a harsh ban for something that the game for some reason allows  

Posted by Kendama

I dont think you understand the point. He was not aware it was illegal to use multiple accounts and he got a HARSH ban for it. It says nowhere in Graal that what he did is illegal and graal pretty much taunts you with just using your VIP in the first place.
The rule needs to be stated somewhere and he doesn't deserve his ban. You guys realize that kain is a good person and has no real bad intentions. You punish people the learn a lesson and kain obviously already knows the lesson. He was just unaware of an unclear rule

I agree, the ban is pretty harsh and should be shortened, but I think its more of common sense thing that he didn't realize being on his VIP account isnt okay.  

Posted by Mr.$imons

I agree, the ban is pretty harsh and should be shortened, but I think its more of common sense thing that he didn't realize being on his VIP account isnt okay.

Common sense to you lol. i would have read "Type of ban: account" as it is.

It techinical terms he wasn't banned from using other accounts. Fairly, it only told him he had an account ban, not a graal ban.  

Posted by Kain

First of all its not my fault if no one told me before that it isnt allowed to log into my non-vipp account while im banned on my main. Ive never heared thats against the rules though. Furthermore i accepted my 4h ban for using the shield, but i dont accept that i get banned, without doing something wrong, without a warning.

Posted by Kendama

I dont think you understand the point. He was not aware it was illegal to use multiple accounts and he got a HARSH ban for it. It says nowhere in Graal that what he did is illegal and graal pretty much taunts you with just using your VIP in the first place.
The rule needs to be stated somewhere and he doesn't deserve his ban. You guys realize that kain is a good person and has no real bad intentions. You punish people the learn a lesson and kain obviously already knows the lesson. He was just unaware of an unclear rule

Use Common sense!
It doesn't need to tell you that avoiding bans would get your other accounts banned. If you got banned, you got banned. If you try to go around it, you'll get banned for trying to avoid getting banned

We don't need a big sign on Graal telling you that "IF YOU AVOID YOUR BAN ON YOUR CURRENT ACCOUNT, YOU WILL GET BANNED!". The rule wasn't unclear... It was pretty obvious.

Its basically common logic you're arguing on right now..  

Here is how I stand on "banning"

Admin's aren't ****ing retarted, you most likely got banned for a legitimate reason and if it wasn't, you would have the common sense to do something more respectful then vent your anger over FB/Forums. Email them, write something that is read-able and polite, yet contains your point/purpose.  

Posted by Maikeru

Use Common sense!
It doesn't need to tell you that avoiding bans would get your other accounts banned. If you got banned, you got banned. If you try to go around it, you'll get banned for trying to avoid getting banned

We don't need a big sign on Graal telling you that "IF YOU AVOID YOUR BAN ON YOUR CURRENT ACCOUNT, YOU WILL GET BANNED!". The rule wasn't unclear... It was pretty obvious.

Its basically common logic you're arguing on right now..

It directly says "Account ban"
Not "player ban"

Just because it says account ban is the exact reason its misleading. That and the lack of a rulebook.  

just exact;y what is this shield that we cant have on i wanna see it!  

Posted by Rezon

Here is how I stand on "banning"

Admin's aren't ****ing retarted, you most likely got banned for a legitimate reason and if it wasn't, you would have the common sense to do something more respectful then vent your anger over FB/Forums. Email them, write something that is read-able and polite, yet contains your point/purpose.

Do you not understand Xor doesnt give a **** and wont do anything about an email. I appreciate this thread being made .
Admins can be very stupid yes. Dont call anyone retarted. even If they have a mental problem dont even call them retarted, its offensive.

Kain isnt a baby whos going to email xor.
Nobody emails xor.
Hes a loser and doesnt help anyone.

Kain knows he will actually find more help here, regardless if the majority is against him


I personally dont care. Just dont call people retarted and dont say stuff that isnt true. The only person who is stupid is the person who doesnt tell anyone about an unfair ban and thinks emailing xor will help get his ban fixxed  

Posted by Goblin

Do you not understand Xor doesnt give a **** and wont do anything about an email. I appreciate this thread being made .
Admins can be very stupid yes. Dont call anyone retarted. even If they have a mental problem dont even call them retarted, its offensive.

Kain isnt a baby whos going to email xor.
Nobody emails xor.
Hes a loser and doesnt help anyone.

Kain knows he will actually find more help here, regardless if the majority is against him


I personally dont care. Just dont call people retarted and dont say stuff that isnt true. The only person who is stupid is the person who doesnt tell anyone about an unfair ban and thinks emailing xor will help get his ban fixxed

 

Posted by Kendama

Common sense to you lol. i would have read "Type of ban: account" as it is.

It techinical terms he wasn't banned from using other accounts. Fairly, it only told him he had an account ban, not a graal ban.

Are you void off common sense? Okay think bout this, why do staff ban you. Well the answer is simple you've done something wrong and deserve punishment. Pretty easy to understand right? Now, what sort of punishments it if you could just go on another device or account and keep playing? It isn't any sort of punishment. How about an example, I do something bad and my mom says "No more access to your computer", I say alright and go on Poptart's computer, she walks in sees me playing, what do you think she will do? Tell me to get the **** off, or not care because it's a different computer.

Posted by 123tepig

just exact;y what is this shield that we cant have on i wanna see it!

It was a Graal tile or something, there was a bug so you could set any file in game as a shield. It's a game bug, so he got banned.  

Posted by Mr.$imons

Are you void off common sense? Okay think bout this, why do staff ban you. Well the answer is simple you've done something wrong and deserve punishment. Pretty easy to understand right? Now, what sort of punishments it if you could just go on another device or account and keep playing? It isn't any sort of punishment. How about an example, I do something bad and my mom says "No more access to your computer", I say alright and go on Poptart's computer, she walks in sees me playing, what do you think she will do? Tell me to get the **** off, or not care because it's a different computer.



It was a Graal tile or something, there was a bug so you could set any file in game as a shield. It's a game bug, so he got banned.

Common sense tells me account ban = account is banned.

Sorry i dont think things like this deeply thouroughly before i do it. If it tells me somthing On my ban page saying this account is banned, thats all i care about. I dident tell me anything else was banned.

I dont need to have this long theroy go on in my head. Classic needs to adapt to be more user friendly and lift bans on people who try to evade a ban. Yhey make it look so easy and innocent to use VIP account.  

Posted by Kendama

Common sense tells me account ban = account is banned.

Sorry i dont think things like this deeply thouroughly before i do it. If it tells me somthing On my ban page saying this account is banned, thats all i care about. I dident tell me anything else was banned.

I dont need to have this long theroy go on in my head. Classic needs to adapt to be more user friendly and lift bans on people who try to evade a ban. Yhey make it look so easy and innocent to use VIP account.

Ie never seen this as a theory, just logic...if ya kill someone with a knife they don't take the knife and let you go.  

Posted by Maikeru

Use Common sense!
It doesn't need to tell you that avoiding bans would get your other accounts banned. If you got banned, you got banned. If you try to go around it, you'll get banned for trying to avoid getting banned

We don't need a big sign on Graal telling you that "IF YOU AVOID YOUR BAN ON YOUR CURRENT ACCOUNT, YOU WILL GET BANNED!". The rule wasn't unclear... It was pretty obvious.

Its basically common logic you're arguing on right now..

I think they still need rule signs. A lot of people lack common sense in case you haven't noticed. That's why rules need to be put in place to remind them.