Posted by AimeeAdelphos

If someone were actually warping and abusing as such it should be emailed and management of the game can investigate. If you're right you're right but hate bashing without knowing 100% if it was them isn't fair to them.

I'd say almost every one of your replies to the thread so far have been a deflection and attempt to draw attention away from several people reporting the abusive stuff that Envy has done. You haven't acknowledged it once, yet. I don't blame you I guess, because she's probably responsible for three digits in fort hours for you guys.

I've emailed and others have too, probably. It's our option to post about it here on the forums, we don't need to cover it up or hide it. It's a problem, and posting it here has obviously given more attention to the situation. Why is it such a concern of yours to keep us hushed?

So answer me: Does Envy abuse her administrative powers to get forts for you guys? Surely you know and see this, you're the leader of Vintage. One of two answers will occur:

• "Yes", in which case Envy should be immediately removed from staff and your guild's hours should probably be reset
• "No", in which case you're either lying to yourself or just completely irresponsible and delusional to what goes on around you, which will eventually be exposed and proven without dispute (as if the thread hasn't gone in that direction enough thus far) and your guild's hours should then be reset

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

As for someone saying they favor tower guilds towering as with spar is a huge part of the game and where a majority of the problems occur with lag abuse hacking/cheating etc, so yes of course staff is at forts.

What? I spent the last few years in the battle arena and can't relate to this problem you're talking about. Admins and towers are a problem because they revolve around guilds, flocks of people who are your friends and you will feel pressured by. There's practically never any of this drama in the battle arena.

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

I myself report anytime someone lags out, is unkillable or appears to be chat/lag blocking. Staff shows up, not because it's a "staff" guild, because it's their job.

Sure, those are the good staff members. What about Envy? What happens when I report a player from your guild who is lag blocking, and Envy is too caught up in the apparent thrill and excitement of rushing my tower to handle the situation accordingly?  

This forum should make us all Anon's so that bias in responses to arguments won't occur. Its bewildering at the fact many people have been proven wrong, or their arguments contradicted yet still believe they're right because they have a personal grudge against themselves.

Although 4chan has many disturbing things posted because of this, the community is generally more honest and aren't afraid of speaking out.

oh **** so offtopic...  

Posted by Thallen

• "Yes", in which case Envy should be immediately removed from staff and your guild's hours should probably be reset
• "No", in which case you're either lying to yourself or just completely irresponsible and delusional to what goes on around you, which will eventually be exposed and proven without dispute (as if the thread hasn't gone in that direction enough thus far) and your guild's hours should then be reset

Or or or... She likes what is going on, so turns a blind eye, because it is her own guild. Surely if it was another guild, she would immediatly get right on it and report. Am i right, or, am i right?  

Don't feel like quoting the whole argument about "chat blocking" but on iDevices leaving the touch keyboard up takes a **** on your FPS, so it does increase blink time.  

Posted by Imprint

Don't feel like quoting the whole argument about "chat blocking" but on iDevices leaving the touch keyboard up takes a **** on your FPS, so it does increase blink time.

It should just put people on pause when they open up the keyboard...  

Posted by Thallen

I'd say almost every one of your replies to the thread so far have been a deflection and attempt to draw attention away from several people reporting the abusive stuff that Envy has done. You haven't acknowledged it once, yet. I don't blame you I guess, because she's probably responsible for three digits in fort hours for you guys.

I've emailed and others have too, probably. It's our option to post about it here on the forums, we don't need to cover it up or hide it. It's a problem, and posting it here has obviously given more attention to the situation. Why is it such a concern of yours to keep us hushed?

So answer me: Does Envy abuse her administrative powers to get forts for you guys? Surely you know and see this, you're the leader of Vintage. One of two answers will occur:

• "Yes", in which case Envy should be immediately removed from staff and your guild's hours should probably be reset
• "No", in which case you're either lying to yourself or just completely irresponsible and delusional to what goes on around you, which will eventually be exposed and proven without dispute (as if the thread hasn't gone in that direction enough thus far) and your guild's hours should then be reset

What? I spent the last few years in the battle arena and can't relate to this problem you're talking about. Admins and towers are a problem because they revolve around guilds, flocks of people who are your friends and you will feel pressured by. There's practically never any of this drama in the battle arena.


Sure, those are the good staff members. What about Envy? What happens when I report a player from your guild who is lag blocking, and Envy is too caught up in the apparent thrill and excitement of rushing my tower to handle the situation accordingly?

No, I have not deflected what you've accused Envy of in any matter, I've told you to email it, and if you had, it's quite possible, and probable that nothing was found as abuse. Rufus did a "clean sweep" of the GP situation months ago as he's stated before. It's almost impossible to abuse staff and not be caught. Also you're speaking of 2 people whom are hardly active in the guild. 80% of our tower time is when Ast is as work and envy is at school.  

Posted by Imprint

Don't feel like quoting the whole argument about "chat blocking" but on iDevices leaving the touch keyboard up takes a **** on your FPS, so it does increase blink time.

I'm sure it does on iDev, but if you get a drop in FPS when you press Tab on PC then you've got a serious problem. Victor and others that were banned use PC. It was just careless. The entire chat/lag blocking thing needs to be fixed entirely so that stuff like this can't happen.

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

No, I have not deflected what you've accused Envy of in any matter, I've told you to email it, and if you had, it's quite possible, and probable that nothing was found as abuse. Rufus did a "clean sweep" of the GP situation months ago as he's stated before. It's almost impossible to abuse staff and not be caught. Also you're speaking of 2 people whom are hardly active in the guild. 80% of our tower time is when Ast is as work and envy is at school.

So your yes-or-no answer to the question is "no," right? Just want to make sure I understand you and have it spelled out plainly to be on some sort of record. Are you confident enough in your answer to consent to having your guild's hours reset "if" she is caught abusing for your guild?  

Posted by Rezon

It should just put people on pause when they open up the keyboard...

Agree, same with iDevice chat or guild chat.

Posted by Eldon

Or or or... She likes what is going on, so turns a blind eye, because it is her own guild. Surely if it was another guild, she would immediatly get right on it and report. Am i right, or, am i right?

I report members of my own guild playing unfair yes, kick them, and report. I've banned members of my own guild that were quite significant as well. If youre a responsible GP you do your job and do it right.

Posted by Thallen

I'm sure it does on iDev, but if you get a drop in FPS when you press Tab on PC then you've got a serious problem. Victor and others that were banned use PC. It was just careless. The entire chat/lag blocking thing needs to be fixed entirely so that stuff like this can't happen.




So your yes-or-no answer to the question is "no," right? Just want to make sure I understand you and have it spelled out plainly to be on some sort of record. Are you confident enough in your answer to consent to having your guild's hours reset "if" she is caught abusing for your guild?

Yes. She is no longer a prime in my guild also, just helps, but yes, if cheating occurred it occurred. If she legitimately warped members and banned unfairly then go for it.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

Yes. She is no longer a prime in my guild also, just helps, but yes, if cheating occurred it occurred. If she legitimately warped members and banned unfairly then go for it.

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Thanks for participating in the discussion.  

Posted by Thallen

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Thanks for participating in the discussion.

No problem

Now close thread please.  

Posted by AimeeAdelphos

Now close thread please.

And prevent a very progressive and revealing thread from continuing to shed light on a huge issue in one of Graal's most fun elements of gameplay? Nope! It's going very well and the pressure is on now. Surely Aster and Envy have heard of this thread, maybe the problem will solve itself.  

I am saying prove the issue and it will be dealt with. You're bashing people without proof, I thought you were above that. You're calling out a "kid" on a forum for no reason. Last Saturday or Sunday when Rebel was attacking you were asking me to take from you at 12 am est because your members were banned and you felt there was staff abuse and didn't want Rebellious to get. Now, because we attacked its my guild responsible.  

Why close it? More discussions regarding the issue can happen.  

You clearly just don't like getting attacked or loosing, and when you do you make a hate thread about it. You lost a fort, on a game, get over it. When your members were banned we weren't even involved.

Posted by WMS

Why close it? More discussions regarding the issue can happen.

It's just a hate fest at this point. If a player gets banned in the game and comes on the forums they delete the thread and tell the player to email, this is no different especially since they're calling out people in particular.  

Ahh reminds me of when Warrlord was first hired. His guild had Swamp and he was defending while on admin account, where he was becoming invisible. Really unfair to attackers. Good times