Posted by Shurikangraal

As an artist and a player I think this is a great idea

The "idea" might be good, but the way it's presented is not. Artist charging commission for their work is nothing new. I see nothing wrong with artists selling their original work.

My problem with this "great idea" is:
1. The market will keep 40% and 25% of the selling price

2. Buyers will pay the market and the market will pay the artist when and how they want(if they don't accuse the artist of producing edited/stolen graphics)

3. If a head is paid for and it's declined on the server will the buyer get his money back( the market can say yes it will, but the market ain't going to refund the buyer because there's no way for them to verify that the head was declined/removed after it was uploaded)

4. There might be a lot of these little ******s that pay X amount of dollars to pay for their "custom" head only to see other players wearing them within a day.




It's not hard for graphic artists to be known around the community(especially if they do good work), so if they really want to sell their art they can do it on their own without contributing to some douchebags money scheme. People are free to do whatever they want I'm just stating my views, so artists/buyers that read this can make a more educated decision when the time comes.






This is what I feel about it at the moment. I will see how they work once they release it and curious to see if they add a "terms of agreement" that removes all liabilities from the market (I'm curious because we all know 12 year olds read those).  

Posted by AngelRose

I think the idea of incoporating real money into this is very risky. Even if you do have several steps for a custom to be approved, there will always be ways around it. (I can't really think of any rn, but just keep in mind that almost every idea has its negatives.) Plus, think about the bugs. What if, perhaps, you purchase a custom but you never get it? It's best to stay traditional and go on other GFX websites or ask artists to make customs for you.

Yes, there will be always someone that wants to exploit systems for a quick buck. But we will try to deter these people as much as possible with multiple measures. These include but not limited to:

• stringent approval process
• minimum payment threshold ($10?) to be met before any payments. This makes sure they are more serious in business.
• 14 day clearing period
• and more ongoing auditing before any payments are send out.

The site will be built behind a robust framework that is already proven to be a solid digital marketplace.

At the moment I think players have a hard time finding these GFX website and to find available artists. What we are trying to do is create a robust platform for which players and artist can easily find each other.

Posted by GOAT

The "idea" might be good, but the way it's presented is not. Artist charging commission for their work is nothing new. I see nothing wrong with artists selling their original work.

My problem with this "great idea" is:
1. The market will keep 40% and 25% of the selling price

2. Buyers will pay the market and the market will pay the artist when and how they want(if they don't accuse the artist of producing edited/stolen graphics)

3. If a head is paid for and it's declined on the server will the buyer get his money back( the market can say yes it will, but the market ain't going to refund the buyer because there's no way for them to verify that the head was declined/removed after it was uploaded)

4. There might be a lot of these little ******s that pay X amount of dollars to pay for their "custom" head only to see other players wearing them within a day.




It's not hard for graphic artists to be known around the community(especially if they do good work), so if they really want to sell their art they can do it on their own without contributing to some douchebags money scheme. People are free to do whatever they want I'm just stating my views, so artists/buyers that read this can make a more educated decision when the time comes.






This is what I feel about it at the moment. I will see how they work once they release it and curious to see if they add a "terms of agreement" that removes all liabilities from the market (I'm curious because we all know 12 year olds read those).

All of the issues you have mentioned, we are open for suggestions and improvements.

We understand that the majority of players are under the age of 18 years. This mean they cannot accept any TOS and be held liable for their actions . For this reason we ask all payers that are under 18 to have parental/guardian permission and have them understand what they are doing.  

Is this limited to just heads/bodies/hats, or for other things like tilesets, furniture, etc for servers?  

Posted by John.

Is this limited to just heads/bodies/hats, or for other things like tilesets, furniture, etc for servers?

At launch it will be limited to only player customisable items. But later on we may expand to allow licencing of server assets.  

I think it'd be cool to have profiles of known artists in the community who can sign up for for people to view their page. On their page they can post files in which they are selling. People then can decide they want one then go through the process of getting it.

Example:
I go on GraalMarket.com
I want a head! So I go to a tab that lists the site's trusted artists'.
I then select an artist who's work I've seen and enjoyed.
Oh looky here! They're selling a head I like, I need this! Or Darn it they don't have a head I like, but I love their work, let me fill out a request form!
I then either go through the payment information or wait for the artist to view my request form and see if they accept it.

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Honestly I love this idea, it sounds like a great opportunity for Artists to get their art out there and for some cash! Somewhat of a central hub or go to destination when in the search of Graal Related Artwork (maybe even character drawings and portraits too -drawn-)  

You can easily find GFX websites by just typing "Graal GFX" in your search terms. There's a lot of players who make blogs that display free heads for people to use and from the websites I've looked into, they take requests for customs FREE. So it'll make you wonder, do I prefer to use the resources available that are free or waste actual money? From a buyer's standpoint, I find this idea highly unreliable given the fact there are tons of places you can find such and such things without wasting a single (whatever currency is your country).  

I remember getting one of my heads i made off graaldeport if only i allowed it to still be there as I don't have file anymore  

Updated Promotional poster

 

Very very cool.  

https://www.facebook.com/events/588859937918928/
graal market is opening very soon.  

very very cool  

"sell your graphics!"
mfw

It'd be smarter to just commission an artist whom you admire than go through a system like this; plus the graphic could still easily be used by others.

no point to this at all unless you just wanna waste money.  

Honestly, i don't like this,the concept is cool and all but really? pay real money for graphics when some people do it for a small amounts of gralats or even for free. and the head/body is probably gonna get uploaded to graal depot..  

Posted by Yami

"sell your graphics!"
mfw

It'd be smarter to just commission an artist whom you admire than go through a system like this; plus the graphic could still easily be used by others.

no point to this at all unless you just wanna waste money.

can't be as bad as the recent gst hats  

speaking of markets
ive been running a black market
im usualy caught during a week onnet, nexus or other limited shops open
or during events like christmas when I need extra cash.


i sell stolen graphics from heads to bodies to kfc bucket shields
I may sometimes sell strippers aswell