Thought we were going to have to cancel it when we were 40 minutes in and we couldn't even summon people in for the first match.

I'm pleased to report that I was able to reduce the dependency on me to host the event and increased the level of automation by a significant portion this GST.

We switched from text-based commands to a GUI that updates the database rather than me filling in winners by hand, training, and coordinating with staff and having them summon teams in manually with commands.

We still need to make it easier to bring in substitutes though which is a pain in the ass for both staff and players currently. As well handing out the prizes at the end.  

Not that I care for sparring or the GST much but there are a few things I don't quite get.

1.why is it only the top 74 or whatever teams get in the GST?
2.Where do these teams come from or how do they determine the "top 74 teams"?
3.Not really a question more stating a fact: since they use this format or set up for the GST I'm assuming that has been why we generally get the same winning teams every time around.
4.what is the criteria for a top 74 team? and would it be to much to stretch the GST into 2 weekends? Like the 1st weekend would be qualifiers Sat + Sun to determine the field of 74. (some guilds would be able to have automatic gaurenteed spots in the GST.)
Or some kind of way for more "thrown together" teams to get into the GST.  

Posted by ufoburan

1.why is it only the top 74 or whatever teams get in the GST?

it's top 64 and top 32 and because no one wants to play in an 8-hour tournament

Posted by ufoburan

2.Where do these teams come from or how do they determine the "top 74 teams"?

GS scores

Posted by ufoburan

4.what is the criteria for a top 74 team? and would it be to much to stretch the GST into 2 weekends? Like the 1st weekend would be qualifiers Sat + Sun to determine the field of 74. (some guilds would be able to have automatic gaurenteed spots in the GST.)
Or some kind of way for more "thrown together" teams to get into the GST.

GS scores  

I can understand that no one would want to sit around all day for a long long tournament. That's why I have suggested more than once spreading it out.

Imho I don't really like how its set up. Like I said in my previous post I think it would be interesting and add to the GST to have a qualifier the weekend prior to the gst.

Btw thanks for the info Thallen  

The only thing wrong with the current format IMO is the same thing that is wrong with every guild-based aspect of the game, and that's that there are no restrictions. The same restrictions would fix GSing that would fix towering.

Players should need to be a member of a guild for a certain amount of hours before they're able to GS at the ranked spars in the Battle Arena. It completely defeats the purpose of bracket seeding in the GST if the seeding is skewered by teams recruiting anyone and everyone to help inflate (or deflate) their score, thus putting them at a seed that doesn't reflect how good they actually are, thus completely disturbing the flow of the tournament.

I've still got my fingers crossed for that one-month rule for GST participants, too. That'd turn it into an actual GST, a guild spar tournament, not a team spar tournament. Overall, would just like to see the game be more rewarding for good guilds. A team of 5 people that get together before the GST is not a good guild. A group of people that endlessly "noob recruit" to hold towers is not a good guild. Neither should be allowed IMO, and it'd improve the quality of gameplay and competition overall if they weren't.  

Posted by fp4

Thought we were going to have to cancel it when we were 40 minutes in and we couldn't even summon people in for the first match.

We switched from text-based commands to a GUI that updates the database rather than me filling in winners by hand, training, and coordinating with staff and having them summon teams in manually with commands.

My hero <3 You're awesome sir.  

Posted by Thallen

The only thing wrong with the current format IMO is the same thing that is wrong with every guild-based aspect of the game, and that's that there are no restrictions. The same restrictions would fix GSing that would fix towering.

Players should need to be a member of a guild for a certain amount of hours before they're able to GS at the ranked spars in the Battle Arena. It completely defeats the purpose of bracket seeding in the GST if the seeding is skewered by teams recruiting anyone and everyone to help inflate (or deflate) their score, thus putting them at a seed that doesn't reflect how good they actually are, thus completely disturbing the flow of the tournament.

I've still got my fingers crossed for that one-month rule for GST participants, too. That'd turn it into an actual GST, a guild spar tournament, not a team spar tournament. Overall, would just like to see the game be more rewarding for good guilds. A team of 5 people that get together before the GST is not a good guild. A group of people that endlessly "noob recruit" to hold towers is not a good guild. Neither should be allowed IMO, and it'd improve the quality of gameplay and competition overall if they weren't.

I can see where your coming from on this,but with your idea do you think there would be enough players to meet the requirements to fill out the field of 64 teams?

I know your a top sparrer and want to have only the best competion for the GST's from what you call "good guilds" and I respect your opinion on how you think it should be. However IMHO I would like to see the GST's be more for fun then just to see which guild or team with the best spar stats is the best sparrers. That's why we have the same teams winning time after time every 3-4 months. I would much rather form a team with my friends and go against other "thrown together" teams of friends. This is why I suggest a separate novice or open type of tournament.

I realize the shear amount of teams would be numerous that's why I also suggested stretching it out over the whole weekend. The prelims would break down into several bracketed time frames for example: teams in the bracket (A) preliminary round would spar from 10-12 am est. Bracket (B) would be 12-2 pm Bracket (C) would be 2-4 pm and bracket (D) would be 4-6 pm or something to that effect. The Npc's in the battle arena would tell you which bracket your team is in and what time frame your match would be in.

If you want to keep it more structured and organized just put a cap on the amount of teams that can enter and stop registration when that amount has been reached. So say the first 200 teams to sign up are in and everybody else would have to wait till the next gst's. Then the prelims would consist of the 4 previously mentioned brackets made up of 50 teams in each. (I'm just using round figures to make it easier the amount could be whatever)

You could even do say 1 prelim round on the sat before the gst's cutting the field in half (100) then on Sunday do another round dropping the field to 50 teams then On the Sunday the day after the GST's do the final's for the Novice gst.  

Posted by ufoburan

However IMHO I would like to see the GST's be more for fun then just to see which guild or team with the best spar stats is the best sparrers. That's why we have the same teams winning time after time every 3-4 months. I would much rather form a team with my friends and go against other "thrown together" teams of friends. This is why I suggest a separate novice or open type of tournament.

I'm not sure what would be the correct way to split into a major and minor league. The minor league would still be competitive with each other, and try to sneak in pro players just like real life. The best way to beat sparrers in a tournament is to have something other than a spar tournament. :p  

fite me u phegits  

Posted by Crono

fite me u phegits

I need proper lego weaponry.  

Posted by Clops

I'm not sure what would be the correct way to split into a major and minor league. The minor league would still be competitive with each other, and try to sneak in pro players just like real life. The best way to beat sparrers in a tournament is to have something other than a spar tournament. :p

One of the major things I would implement would be that you can only enter or register for one of the two either the pro tourny or the novice tourny. I think that would be one of the ways that would keep the majority of the "pros" in the normal formatted GST or "PRO" ranked GST's and out of the Novice GST's. You might be able to use or set other stipulations or criteria to Limit who can be in which GST. It would kind of defeat the purpose if say one of the top 10 spar teams entered the novice gst instead of the pro. Or if some of the sparrers on the pro teams joined other teams to get into the easier gst.

Posted by Clops

I need proper lego weaponry.

Would that be the kind that gets left on the floor at night and breaks your ankles when you step on them?  

Posted by ufoburan

Would that be the kind that gets left on the floor at night and breaks your ankles when you step on them?

how u tink i win fite?