Based on my experience on an IDevice (I used a plain and simple Ipod touch) and a PC, I never noticed any advantages related to their clients. However, since both systems require a different set of fingers to play, I believe an advantage can be found when playing on a PC.

Obviously I am no scientist and did not conduct any professional experiments but one would think having at least six fingers on a keyboard (on both of my hands, I use my index, middle and ring finger but some people use their pinkies) would result to a faster reaction time than using two thumbs. With an Ipod, you constantly need to move your left hand thumb around the screen in order to move. Although this consumes the slightest amount of time, it still takes more time than having a fixed finger on an arrow key. This gives the PC user maybe a tenth of a second quicker reaction give or take over the the IDevice majority. Such an advantage is barely noticeable and all depends on the player.

I would say that's my two cents on the situation but the pennies are abolished in Canada.  

Posted by TD*

Based on my experience on an IDevice (I used a plain and simple Ipod touch) and a PC, I never noticed any advantages related to their clients. However, since both systems require a different set of fingers to play, I believe an advantage can be found when playing on a PC.

Obviously I am no scientist and did not conduct any professional experiments but one would think having at least six fingers on a keyboard (on both of my hands, I use my index, middle and ring finger but some people use their pinkies) would result to a faster reaction time than using two thumbs. With an Ipod, you constantly need to move your left hand thumb around the screen in order to move. Although this consumes the slightest amount of time, it still takes more time than having a fixed finger on an arrow key. This gives the PC user maybe a tenth of a second quicker reaction give or take over the the IDevice majority. Such an advantage is barely noticeable and all depends on the player.

I would say that's my two cents on the situation but the pennies are abolished in Canada.

Finally, a real unbiased argument that I can actually agree with. As for the pennies being removed, you could say thats my 5 cents worth since we round now.  

. They walk through hits. No i'm not raging, anyone with normal vision can see it.

Posted by Thallen

You are truly, truly an idiot. If you lack the intelligence required to explain how or why this is possible, then don't make the claim.

so if he cant explain how it happens means its not true? Lol (he hasn’t been obsessed with graal half his life like you dude) don’t be a hypocrite if you know it does happen why cry about it
v---- like he said anyone with a normal vision can see that even without the slow motion (im guessing this is walking through hits)

Posted by David

I hope the idiots of this thread (yes, I'm talking to you GotenGraal, Ash Ketchum and GOAT) realize that we stopped being serious when we realized you're all mentally incapable of understanding how wrong you actually are. Now its just for fun.

Are you the US David? If yes you have no business here dude you’re just a lame. If you are im a tell you why.
I was at gst and saw Rufus talking to david and he told him “the iphoners are sparing, go find them now” lol if that’s you dude I can’t respect a wimp like that. If it is you don’t bother replying to me lol

Posted by *Dae

Now moving on to the pathetic excuse for a list of "differences" as you put it, obviously if you take two opposite ends of the spectrum as you're doing comparing a player with a reasonably good computer to that of someone with a clustered old iDevice its obvious the iDevice would be slower. However the same applies to someone with a old and slow computer as compared to someone with a new iDevice, the one using the computer would obviously appear slower. But on average they're the same speed, or maybe its just you having terribly slow reflexes.

This is what i got from your post so let me know if i got it wrong

Old device vs new computer =faster computer
Old computer vs new device = pc looks slower but on avg is the same speed meaning it can be lower or faster
New computer vs new device = faster computer?

Take in consideration there’s many what ifs here:

There can be a huge difference in performance from two new computers. Im almost sure ram, power supplies, graphics cards for gaming are some of the things that affect the performance.

Old computers can be slow but a couple of upgrades make it fast like a newer computer.

There’s also programs that supposedly stop all programs from running while you play for a smoother/faster experience.

And finally what ash has been saying, not all speed hacks are caught. Anyone with knowledge could hack just enough to go undetected.

and whatever xspeed is i guess its legal (even pcrs complain about pcrs) ---v

Posted by Thallen

Dude literally calls absolutely any player who beats him in a spar a hacker, UDPer, whatever other excuse he can pull out of his hat. Funniest part is he (and a huge portion of his guild, including Poodie who also plays iClassic) uses xSpeed in spars, and it's glaringly obvious.

 

Posted by Thallen

You are truly, truly an idiot. If you lack the intelligence required to explain how or why this is possible, then don't make the claim.


Can I ask why you don't spar on PC then?


You are truly, truly an idiot. If you lack the intelligence required to explain how or why this is possible, then don't make the claim.


Yes, the reason is because of complaints like yours. The administrators like to give crybabies what they want. That's how you maintain a playerbase. What do you expect?
When the government tax the wealthy a higher percentage than the middle class, it bears no implication that it's fair. They do it because it is what the majority want. Opinion, want, or need is not a variable in a fairness equation. You are dumb.

They walk through hits, what doesn't you're slow ass understand? K let me make this more clear. I hit with sword, you walk into sword, hit me, and take no damage from my sword. Once again calling me an "idiot" isn't an argument.  

Posted by GOAT

Are you the US David? If yes you have no business here dude you’re just a lame. If you are im a tell you why.
I was at gst and saw Rufus talking to david and he told him “the iphoners are sparing, go find them now” lol if that’s you dude I can’t respect a wimp like that. If it is you don’t bother replying to me lol

 

Posted by GOAT

-youtube video-

The point of that video was to prove that a player was using third-party programs to gain an unfair advantage on a PC server. This video does not belong here, nor does it serve a purpose. Normally, people do not just walk through swords because they are on a PC, but perhaps they time it correctly (which I like to do a lot.) The video does not prove your assumption that players become immune to damage once they hop onto a different device.

Posted by GOAT

I was at gst and saw Rufus talking to david and he told him “the iphoners are sparing, go find them now” lol if that’s you dude I can’t respect a wimp like that. If it is you don’t bother replying to me lol

We like to watch our fellow guild members compete in GST tournaments and cheer them on, no matter what device they play on.

But seriously, how can you complain about speed and unfair advantages and not know what xSpeed is? x.x

Posted by GotenGraal

They walk through hits, what doesn't you're slow ass understand? K let me make this more clear. I hit with sword, you walk into sword, hit me, and take no damage from my sword. Once again calling me an "idiot" isn't an argument.

I have never come across this in all my years of playing, including PC vs. iPhone, on both ends of the situation. I can actually present the same half-assed argument about iPhones walking through hitboxes with the same amount of evidence as you put out. Although, I don't present this as an argument because it would be dumb and easily disproven. It really just looks like people expect others to just agree with whatever their own opinion is on a topic nowadays.. x_x  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Dumbass. I'm saying browser will boost the speed. You obviously don't know anything about how browser works. Download cheat engine and tell me how easy it is to speed hack. People have been getting banned, just because of browsers. Because of that, the Facebook app for Graal is unfair.

Here's a tip for you :

People generally will just start ignoring your posts if to get your point across you have to yell at somebody. If you completely believed what you are talking about, and were confident in your knowledge on the subject you shouldn't get pissed off and start attacking people.

Oops. Why do I always reply to old messages....  

Posted by Winter

The point of that video was to prove that a player was using third-party programs to gain an unfair advantage on a PC server. This video does not belong here, nor does it serve a purpose. Normally, people do not just walk through swords because they are on a PC, but perhaps they time it correctly (which I like to do a lot.) The video does not prove your assumption that players become immune to damage once they hop onto a different device.



We like to watch our fellow guild members compete in GST tournaments and cheer them on, no matter what device they play on.

But seriously, how can you complain about speed and unfair advantages and not know what xSpeed is? x.x



I have never come across this in all my years of playing, including PC vs. iPhone, on both ends of the situation. I can actually present the same half-assed argument about iPhones walking through hitboxes with the same amount of evidence as you put out. Although, I don't present this as an argument because it would be dumb and easily disproven. It really just looks like people expect others to just agree with whatever their own opinion is on a topic nowadays.. x_x

That happens in iClassic just look at rezons video our first fight at the last hit

Watching the iphoners wasnt the point

If i was trying to speed up my pc maybe i would know what programs were out there for me to use but i rather just open fbgraal and playing it the way it is  

Posted by Thallen

I am consistently stunned by how stupid you are.

• You've actually convinced yourself that there is a hacking problem within the spar community.
• You've managed to do this as someone who has never even been in the spar arena once in the past month.
• You've actually convinced yourself that a 30% speed increase is not noticeable by the naked eye (ROFL).
• You're under the impression that there are not apps on Cydia that cannot change your tick speed the same way CheatEngine can for processes on Windows.
• You've made a baseless and ******ed claim that browsers increase your tick speed by 20%, randomly (ROFL).

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL

Leave this thread to the sparrers, man. You and GOAT are a riot.

Please give me an app on cydia that will be able to boost speed in game.
30% isn't noticeable, if so why haven't anyone complained about my speed while i was testing it for hours and hours. Don't call me stupid, i have been testing the speed hack on CheatEngine.

The reason why i think the browser boosts up the speed like of what cheat engine does it because I've seen a numerous complaints of unfair Speed hacking bans, just because of a browser, even the admins said he was sorry and explained why he was banned. What I'm guessing is that they built the system to ignore 1.0-1.3 because of browsers.

That concludes why PC is unfair, because of the speed they are getting from the browsers, and how easy it is to speed hack without getting noticed. Its not your fault.

PS, I'll be waiting for a Cydia app, because i can't find any, and i have searched  

Maybe just maybe, PC players are better at sparring because most of them have been at it before iPhone servers even existed.  

http://psychology.about.com/od/pinde...ebo-effect.htm  

Posted by ArtaXerXes

Here's a tip for you :

People generally will just start ignoring your posts if to get your point across you have to yell at somebody. If you completely believed what you are talking about, and were confident in your knowledge on the subject you shouldn't get pissed off and start attacking people.

Oops. Why do I always reply to old messages....

I don't need a tip, you can have it back  

Posted by Thallen

"Let's spar. You spar on whatever device you're the best on, and I'll do the same."

Explain to me how you counter that statement and use the device you or your opponent is using as a crutch and excuse.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

This argument is toooo funny, I'm just gonna accept this thread as satire from here on. It's like Kobe, LeBron, Durant, and CP3 arguing with Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, and Darko Milicic about basketball.  

I just can't accept that you think PC and iOS is equal in terms of sparring  

I just can't accept that you think that yet continue to cry, whine, and complain rather than accessing the game by PC.