I agree, pick order is how it should be. For me, I dodge if I have to go adc/support because I can't carry from there. Most of the time you get someone who sucks, which makes you lose. I like mid/top because you can mostly rely on yourself to win the lane and get fed.  

it's amazing that this happens past bronze/silver though  

@Rockson, don't dodge because you can't adc or support. That's a pathetic excuse, get to know those roles, otherwise you wont get very far.

If that happens past bronze/silver, idk what people are thinking these days.

On a side note, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScISPlbRm8Q  

I didn't say I can't play either of those roles!!! My best role is support actually. I was saying, in bronze it sucks to play either role because you have to rely on another player. More often than not they won't do as good as you need to win lane. I have seen adc's that can't cs for crap, but I have to sit there healing them until we lose the lane. I said I like top/mid because you are alone (usually, unless their jungler camps your lane) and it let's you do good depending on your skill.

Another problem I get in ranked is people don't trade. If I'm first or second pick, I ask if the support will trade champs with me. They end up having almost no champs bought, or they refuse to trade at all.  

If you think you can't win when you support or adc then you're really not trusting anyone. If you can't trust anyone in Bronze, you can't get out.  

Posted by Striken

If you think you can't win when you support or adc then you're really not trusting anyone. If you can't trust anyone in Bronze, you can't get out.

This, I've never been in Bronze but I got out of Silver by playing support. If you play someone like Thresh or Leona, you can pretty much carry the carry since their kits are so good for telling your ADC/team: I'm locking down this guy, let's kill him. Junglers like Nocturne or Nautilus do this well too.  

Posted by Talon

This, I've never been in Bronze but I got out of Silver by playing support. If you play someone like Thresh or Leona, you can pretty much carry the carry since their kits are so good for telling your ADC/team: I'm locking down this guy, let's kill him. Junglers like Nocturne or Nautilus do this well too.

Exactly. I've gotten to Silver from Bronze 5, I even have pictures of some scores I got in each division, and it was a long journey. At the end of the day I carried some matches and the rest were all equal with my entire team.  

I wanted to play with few friend but they are North America so i created a new account, first game:
I were with big noobs lol, and Vayne stole me 6 kills mehh  

You take it to those beginner bots, damn straight.

I have an account on EUW that's in Silver I but I stopped using it because the lag got worse ):  

Posted by Talon

You take it to those beginner bots, damn straight.

I have an account on EUW that's in Silver I but I stopped using it because the lag got worse ):

Idk if it's me, but EUW is way more easier than NA besides the lag.  

Really? Maybe it's your MMR. My main Ranked account on NA has an MMR around Gold III and the skill level feels the same as EUW upper Silver MMR.  

Posted by Talon

Really? Maybe it's your MMR. My main Ranked account on NA has an MMR around Gold III and the skill level feels the same as EUW upper Silver MMR.

You may be correct with MMR, or it's just luck.  

Posted by Talon

You take it to those beginner bots, damn straight.

I have an account on EUW that's in Silver I but I stopped using it because the lag got worse ):

It was obligatory, i need lv5 for enter in PvP -_-, thats so annoying  

lol 3 berzerkers greaves  

Posted by Skill

lol 3 berzerkers greaves

Still stuck in silver 2? c;