I'll admit that I don't know much about this issue, but if Era is selling guns for gralats, promising certain stats, and then changing them later on, that is scamming and should be reported to Apple.  

Posted by Billy

Souizen is the best in my opinion,but i still beat it.. While they reload I get 2-3 shots.. And its really rare so it should get a buff,If m4 can beat it then there's a problem. Glock is 12k and does 8 damage(upgraded) so even if mp40 did 9 upgraded glock would still be better..

Agreed.

It's all based on skill. If you know how to use the gun properly you can beat just about anything. Also, I can't tell the difference between tachi scorpion and souizen.  

Posted by MattKan

I'll admit that I don't know much about this issue, but if Era is selling guns for gralats, promising certain stats, and then changing them later on, that is scamming and should be reported to Apple.

It is not changing the stats as "Ok let them buy other, more expensive guns", it's just the attempt of balancing them. It's not easy to manage such stuff with a 50hp, 2D game where you can't have something like a great recoil and so on like in 3D shooters. We are stuck on a damage from about 0-10 whereas we always want to add guns being better, sometimes maybe a little bit worse  

Posted by SnakeRekon

You only buy guns once, isn't too much need for a refund imo
It's not like they really get nerfed to a point where they're unusable or aren't worth the price, you guys seem to forget these cheaper guns HAVE to be worse than the things more expensive than them lol

Ak47 ($2,500)
Freeze: 0.3, 0.25
Sleep: 0.2, 0.6
Spread: 0.05
Clip: 16
Bullets Fired Per Shot: 1
Can Duel: No
Damage: 7

MP40 ($10,000)
Freeze: 0.35, 0.12
Sleep: 0.15, 0.6 (This is definitely not accurate)
Spread: 0.12
Clip: 20
Bullets Fired Per Shot: 1
Can Duel: No
Damage: 5

The only thing the MP40 really has a leg up on the AK is clip size (not by much) and spread, which is really trivial for automatic guns. 5 damage is also quite ridiculous for a gun that's $7,500 more than a 7 damage gun. Because of its very low fire rate , very high freeze, I think it deserves 7 damage as well.  

Posted by Talon

Ak47 ($2,500)
Freeze: 0.3, 0.25
Sleep: 0.2, 0.6
Spread: 0.05
Clip: 16
Bullets Fired Per Shot: 1
Can Duel: No
Damage: 7

MP40 ($10,000)
Freeze: 0.35, 0.12
Sleep: 0.15, 0.6 (This is definitely not accurate)
Spread: 0.12
Clip: 20
Bullets Fired Per Shot: 1
Can Duel: No
Damage: 5

The only thing the MP40 really has a leg up on the AK is clip size (not by much) and spread, which is really trivial for automatic guns. 5 damage is also quite ridiculous for a gun that's $7,500 more than a 7 damage gun. Because of its very low fire rate , very high freeze, I think it deserves 7 damage as well.

Lol even uzi is better than mp40 and it takes like 10-15 minutes to dig up

Oh and snake you asked why in the world would we make a 10k gun 8-9 damage? What about deagles/ap7/mks.

Mp40 should at least do 8 damage 9(upgraded) its not like the gun will be any better than deagles which it should be.  

Posted by Billy

Lol even uzi is better than mp40 and it takes like 10-15 minutes to dig up

Oh and snake you asked why in the world would we make a 10k gun 8-9 damage? What about deagles/ap7/mks.

Mp40 should at least do 8 damage 9(upgraded) its not like the gun will be any better than deagles which it should be.

Pretty sure they all suffer from other stat pains such as high reload or slow firing or small clip.
That and all of those cost more than mp40 pretty much due to needing to buy two of them.

Stats will always be subject to change to meet the needs of the game.  

What about my post?  

Posted by Talon

What about my post?

Selective reading, does anyone actually care about the Mp40 being improved or are you all just trying to get changes made for the hell of it?

just checked the stats, those two things you posted aren't even accurate :[ Don't use them for comparison.  

I don't want anything changed, I just wanted to illustrate that a 2,500 gun is substantially better overall than a gun that's four times more expensive.  

oh Snake Rekon defending what we all know is bull****.  

Posted by HappyCat123

I like the way BF3 balanced the weapons. One HUGE balance, that changed every gun, and then afterwards they slightly altered stats (slightly decreasing the magnums ROF as an example) that don't drasticly change the way the gun handles, but make it a tiny bit more balanced. I'd like that a lot more than our current system, where the guns are just randomly changed drasticly all the time.

How is Graal.. REMOTELY like bf3? It has guns.


And that last line. Wtf? Does that happen Irl? Guns just suddenly change drastically? I'm pretty sure if someone bought a gun, over the course of a few years it's not going to suddenly change how it operates drastically. Sorry but I don't get this logic. It would make more people complain.


Also about the m4 being overpowered....you raised the price 10x from the original. I think that justifies it being upgraded to how it was a few weeks ago. In fact it went from 45000 to 55000 and you still Nerfed it. There's even an attachment that basically nerfs it at the cost of adding extra bullets but the normal version without attachment should stay the same. It's funny how paying and extra 50k makes the gun slower. Even though it shoots more bullets, that's what you paid the 50k for right?  

Posted by Berries

Also about the m4 being overpowered....you raised the price 10x from the original. I think that justifies it being upgraded to how it was a few weeks ago. In fact it went from 45000 to 55000 and you still Nerfed it. There's even an attachment that basically nerfs it at the cost of adding extra bullets but the normal version without attachment should stay the same. It's funny how paying and extra 50k makes the gun slower. Even though it shoots more bullets, that's what you paid the 50k for right?

Gun was originally 4500 or free, loads of people already had it by that point.
Then, I don't know why or when, but was bumped to 45000 and then 55000. Both of these prices pretty much only make a difference to new players at this point, so please don't try justify any arguments you have with price increments. It is illogical when you already bought it to even try compare it unless you're buying it new.

Secondly; the M4 performed on the same level as a 200k BAR. So without making the BAR completely ridiculious, the M4 was made MARGINALLY slower. You guys still use it, so it's not like it's unusable.

@ Rexx, Sorry, i've played this game far longer than you, and I also know the need for balancing things. I wouldn't put effort into defending something I don't believe in unless I had a point to prove, of which I don't.  

Posted by Berries

How is Graal.. REMOTELY like bf3? It has guns.


And that last line. Wtf? Does that happen Irl? Guns just suddenly change drastically? I'm pretty sure if someone bought a gun, over the course of a few years it's not going to suddenly change how it operates drastically. Sorry but I don't get this logic. It would make more people complain.

I wasn't comparing BF3 and Graal? I was just saying that I liked the way they went about nerfing.

As said before, you can't really compare Era and real life, concidering that you shoot people by the thousands and nothing happens, and then you go collect flowers.

In Era guns suddenly change drastically. 'It would make more people complain'. I would prefer a one time big nerf rather than a bunch of smaller nerfs. I don't like the constant 'Man they nerfed the M16 DOOOOD'.  

M4 did 9 damage and wasn't automatic fire. Bar does 10 and is auto. Case closed.  

They nerfed the colt now. It's not even useable. They should change the description because it doesn't shoot fast at all now.