Hiring A GFX Artist for Cernox! - 3

MattKan · 04-04-2012

Posted by MSM Graal

Lol. Im only Co-Manager, LAT, and Gani. Sheesh.

Who is the other Co-Manager?

Cigam · 04-04-2012

Posted by MSM Graal

Wow. Im just not showing it because we arent done with it. But ill add some tiles we made i guess we just started it.

Heres some tiles that i tried making :p i know im not the best

Are those for the floor or wha...?

callimuc · 04-04-2012

I think I can predict the future

Chaotic · 04-05-2012

The server name reminds me of a reproductive organ

MSM · 04-05-2012

lol? well we are now 101% sure we are buying the server in a few weeks.

David K? · 04-08-2012

Most likely you will not read this, but here goes.

Listen, I am not trying to ruin your dreams, but I want to be honest with what a lot of people aren't telling you. And I will give you some examples as well of course...

It is pretty fun toying with servers, playing with staff tools, and even developing, however most people who pay for servers (which I feel is a great waste of money) quit after 4-6 weeks. Some people get even more dedicated and may even last about 6 months.

I don't know the exact statistics so these are off the top of my head..

It is VERY hard finding the right people to help you, and if you give just anyone rights to everything on the server, you can expect someone to ruin it purposefully or accidentally. I.e.: Deleting all your files, replacing a level by accident, or wiping everything for enjoyment.

Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

After coming back a years ago I've worked on petty servers like Dev Twaina, Dev Astram, and finally Frontier, someone else who is a pretty good programmer and has been doing everything him self for almost two years... (he stopped the project) and as far as I know, the other two servers are gone.

I'm not telling you to not develop, nor saying you can't do it, but the odds are against all new servers, and it IS a waste of money. Think about it before you go into this MSM.

You might think that I'm against you or something, but I'm really trying to get you to look at the big picture... I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but most servers don't get anywhere, you will probably feel overcome with work needed to be done, and stop developing for it in a few months. Save your money..

Aeon and Maloriam both good looking servers, have gone hosted and classic, respectively, and they aren't on the hosted or classic tab any longer.. There really isn't much chance unless you happen to come into a lot of old things to use...

Elusive · 04-08-2012

Posted by David K?

Listen, I am not trying to ruin your dreams, but I want to be honest with what a lot of people aren't telling you. And I will give you some examples as well of course...

It is pretty fun toying with servers, playing with staff tools, and even developing, however most people who pay for servers (which I feel is a great waste of money) quit after 4-6 weeks. Some people get even more dedicated and may even last about 6 months.

I don't know the exact statistics so these are off the top of my head..

It is VERY hard finding the right people to help you, and if you give just anyone rights to everything on the server, you can expect someone to ruin it purposefully or accidentally. I.e.: Deleting all your files, replacing a level by accident, or wiping everything for enjoyment.

Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

After coming back a years ago I've worked on petty servers like Dev Twaina, Dev Astram, and finally Frontier, someone else who is a pretty good programmer and has been doing everything him self for almost two years... (he stopped the project) and as far as I know, the other two servers are gone.

I'm not telling you to not develop, nor saying you can't do it, but the odds are against all new servers, and it IS a waste of money. Think about it before you go into this MSM.

You might think that I'm against you or something, but I'm really trying to get you to look at the big picture... I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but most servers don't get anywhere, you will probably feel overcome with work needed to be done, and stop developing for it in a few months. Save your money..

This ultimately describes how it is no walk in the park developing and maintaining an un-hosted server. Fair call. +rep<3

Skyzer · 04-09-2012

Posted by David K?

Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

You're stupid. Thor's Classic is two years old, not five. The server will most likely never be completed. We want enough content to hold a player count before we go Classic, not Hosted.

Posted by David K?

Aeon and Maloriam both good looking servers, have gone hosted and classic, respectively, and they aren't on the hosted or classic tab any longer.. There really isn't much chance unless you happen to come into a lot of old things to use...

AEON and Maloria don't have enough content to be on Classic. AEON will probably never be anywhere close to going Classic because it is essentially four servers.

David K? · 04-09-2012

Posted by Skyzer

You're stupid. Thor's Classic is two years old, not five. The server will most likely never be completed. We want enough content to hold a player count before we go Classic, not Hosted.

I don't recall saying he wanted to go hosted, only that he was not hosted, and I'm almost sure he told me five to six. o.O

Posted by Skyzer

AEON and Maloria don't have enough content to be on Classic. AEON will probably never be anywhere close to going Classic because it is essentially four servers.

Maloria WAS classic.. for about a week lol...
Aeon I thought was killed...

^- These are the points I'm trying to make. Mal looked pretty good, but didn't have anything of interest.. I didn't even know what to do.. that and it lagged for me. :/ ...

Who owned Mal anyway?

MattKan · 04-09-2012

Posted by Chaotic

The server name reminds me of a reproductive organ

Again, the name is even worse than Stroseria.

David K? · 04-10-2012

Posted by MattKan

Again, the name is even worse than Stroseria.

Besides this is pretty mean, this has reminded me of an idea..
Thanks!

Shukie · 04-10-2012

Posted by Skyzer

How much did you pay for MSPaint?

I may have just died of laughter.

MSM · 04-15-2012

Lolollololol Shukie.

So David, I see what you mean. I know, it will never be the greatest server of all time. But we have really talented people that are skilled in the areas they are working in. The server will just be a fun thing to do.

Elusive · 04-15-2012

There is more behind new features and updates on other servers. I'm sure it isn't always fun scripting and making levels. Sometimes it can be another chore. But what do I know? It is your money, do what you want with it. However take into account these warnings highlighted in this thread. They are extremely valid if you want to make a successful server for others to enjoy. Personally if I wanted to muck around and have fun using RC I would go on the testbed server. The choice is yours..

Dont rush into things without considering the downsides of the project.

MSM · 04-15-2012

Well, we plan on putting it onto other platforms/consoles, but that is highly secret.

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callimuc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 6,122	I think I can predict the future

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Chaotic busy Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,270	The server name reminds me of a reproductive organ

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MSM GraalOnline Era PR Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY, United States Posts: 3,131	lol? well we are now 101% sure we are buying the server in a few weeks.

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David K? Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 471	Most likely you will not read this, but here goes. Listen, I am not trying to ruin your dreams, but I want to be honest with what a lot of people aren't telling you. And I will give you some examples as well of course... It is pretty fun toying with servers, playing with staff tools, and even developing, however most people who pay for servers (which I feel is a great waste of money) quit after 4-6 weeks. Some people get even more dedicated and may even last about 6 months. I don't know the exact statistics so these are off the top of my head.. It is VERY hard finding the right people to help you, and if you give just anyone rights to everything on the server, you can expect someone to ruin it purposefully or accidentally. I.e.: Deleting all your files, replacing a level by accident, or wiping everything for enjoyment. Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed) After coming back a years ago I've worked on petty servers like Dev Twaina, Dev Astram, and finally Frontier, someone else who is a pretty good programmer and has been doing everything him self for almost two years... (he stopped the project) and as far as I know, the other two servers are gone. I'm not telling you to not develop, nor saying you can't do it, but the odds are against all new servers, and it IS a waste of money. Think about it before you go into this MSM. You might think that I'm against you or something, but I'm really trying to get you to look at the big picture... I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but most servers don't get anywhere, you will probably feel overcome with work needed to be done, and stop developing for it in a few months. Save your money.. Aeon and Maloriam both good looking servers, have gone hosted and classic, respectively, and they aren't on the hosted or classic tab any longer.. There really isn't much chance unless you happen to come into a lot of old things to use...

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MSM GraalOnline Era PR Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY, United States Posts: 3,131	Lolollololol Shukie. So David, I see what you mean. I know, it will never be the greatest server of all time. But we have really talented people that are skilled in the areas they are working in. The server will just be a fun thing to do.

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Elusive Bazinga Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 575	There is more behind new features and updates on other servers. I'm sure it isn't always fun scripting and making levels. Sometimes it can be another chore. But what do I know? It is your money, do what you want with it. However take into account these warnings highlighted in this thread. They are extremely valid if you want to make a successful server for others to enjoy. Personally if I wanted to muck around and have fun using RC I would go on the testbed server. The choice is yours.. Dont rush into things without considering the downsides of the project.