Posted by Reemas

What spot? All or most of the houses are code shops. It barely would have made a dent to the leaderboards. Unfair? Bunch of bs.

Yep. Crybabies. If anything, it gave some semblance of a standard to aim for and embarrassed those kids who just pump out the same layout for the tree house level with like 20-30 codes and run folks through 24/7 to rise to the top  

He's referring to the fact she can manipulate the levels in her house. That's about it. No need to drag it a thousand posts.  

It's not a big deal to me imo. Was never my intention to be on the leaderboards and I'm pretty sure the reason I was on them in the first place was because of the valentines event. Whenever I host an event everyone enters my house and i shoot up in the leaderboards. I don't really get why people got sour about that though considering I'm not taking anything away from them lol, but w/e. I just want to make some kind of perma-nexus kind of thing that players can enter and do different crap in and have fun. I actually plan on adding some spar rooms and whatever else comes to mind. With Dusty helping me i could make anything ;) (He's the one who made the ball pit balls for me)

Though I have to admit the current people on the leaderboards are extremely disappointing. Dusty and I often check them out because we want to see what players do with their houses and like every single one is a code shop of some kind. I don't even get how the current leader of the day/week/month/season is #1 when her house is just a code shop scam with parts that'll shove you back to the beginning so you have to do it all over again lol. wtf? How and why did so many people like that?  

Posted by Coco

...we want to see what players do with their houses and like every single one is a code shop of some kind. I don't even get how the current leader of the day/week/month/season is #1 when her house is just a code shop scam with parts that'll shove you back to the beginning so you have to do it all over again lol. wtf? How and why did so many people like that?

*Ahem*

People 'like' automatically in many cases. Just because there is a dearth of experienced players who recognize what goes into making a 'good' house (or are tired of codeshops and know where to get codes online), the players at the top of the leaderboard are the ones who advertise for longer hours in public places. Some players even have secondary accounts to direct flow from a smaller codeshop to a larger, main codeshop in order to garner more likes.

The simple reason, so far as I can tell, is that there is no incentive for players to NOT like a house immediately upon entry. There is no limit to the number of likes they can give out, and no benefit to liking a quality house with intricate design. I've found that designing my house layout actually LOSES likes over time, when compared to others who are on the board, because I am not standing out advertising or spamming invitations like other players.

In a way, this incentivizes making a crappy codeshop on a secondary account, spamming new players with invitations, and not changing up your layout, purely because there is money to be made from players wandering through the bushes in your house, and the higher on the list you are, the more people wander through. Funny how that works...

P.S. - My house has zero codes, and I'm in the top 50 for season <3  

All those useless afk mouths to feed drive me a little crazy. Code shop spam is damn thick and they specifically target new players coming off the boat from Balamb

It's one of the first things you'll see after the tutorial, just a mass of afk code shops and it doesn't represent graal classic too well. I hope to see codes phased out and replaced with the new "accessories" personally

Nice teamwork on the ball pit  

Posted by Sir Travis

All those useless afk mouths to feed drive me a little crazy. Code shop spam is damn thick and they specifically target new players coming off the boat from Balamb

It's one of the first things you'll see after the tutorial, just a mass of afk code shops and it doesn't represent graal classic too well. I hope to see codes phased out and replaced with the new "accessories" personally

That entire strip is all Brazilians too  

Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.  

Posted by SomeGuy

Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.

OR, OR THE PPL USE BOTS TO BOT LIKES weew  

Posted by 4-Lom

*Ahem*

People 'like' automatically in many cases. Just because there is a dearth of experienced players who recognize what goes into making a 'good' house (or are tired of codeshops and know where to get codes online), the players at the top of the leaderboard are the ones who advertise for longer hours in public places. Some players even have secondary accounts to direct flow from a smaller codeshop to a larger, main codeshop in order to garner more likes.

The simple reason, so far as I can tell, is that there is no incentive for players to NOT like a house immediately upon entry. There is no limit to the number of likes they can give out, and no benefit to liking a quality house with intricate design. I've found that designing my house layout actually LOSES likes over time, when compared to others who are on the board, because I am not standing out advertising or spamming invitations like other players.

In a way, this incentivizes making a crappy codeshop on a secondary account, spamming new players with invitations, and not changing up your layout, purely because there is money to be made from players wandering through the bushes in your house, and the higher on the list you are, the more people wander through. Funny how that works...

P.S. - My house has zero codes, and I'm in the top 50 for season <3

That really sucks The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.
 

Posted by SomeGuy

Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.

This, the like button covers the top first of our actions and people are sometimes forced to click on it to use their bombs or whatever that was on that top button. Maybe, place the like button on the bottom middle, where the magnifying glass is located. I doubt this will fix the whole codeshop leaderboard thing, but it will help a little.  

Posted by Coco

That really sucks The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.

I wil maek a fashon sho four u nd doosty  

Posted by Coco

That really sucks The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.

there are many cool houses that just arnt on the boards, probably because codeshops just promote so much more  

Posted by Coco

That really sucks The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.

This is why i believe an actual rating system would be much better. The like system is based on quantity not quality but if we were able to rate a house from 1-10 and have the highest averaging house with a base minimum of ratings at the top we could weed out these terrible code shop scams and bring up the plenty of beautiful houses that exist on graal since there's no way for someone to force you to rate their house a 10.  

Posted by Coco

I don't really get why people got sour about that though considering I'm not taking anything away from them lol, but w/e.?

If that was aimed somewhat at me making this post, I want to clear up that I didn't make this thread to complain that you're house outranks the same codeshops repeated on the leaderboards, nor did I make this with the end goal being to see your house off the leaderboards. I made this post simply because I was talking with some friends and thought that it's unfair for people who put many hours and money into their houses (Not specifically codeshops, even though that's really all it is) to be outranked by a house with a level design that nobody else can have and I wanted to see if there was any reason to that.

Bryan's post shown below explains it better than I did in all honesty.

Posted by Bryan*

He's referring to the fact she can manipulate the levels in her house. That's about it. No need to drag it a thousand posts.

 

I made a somewhat original house, no codes, no bushwalk people barely entered, even less liked it. So i closed it to friends only. 4-lom has been in there >0>