Posted by Dread

warning rant ahead m8

To be quite honest I never really understood the whole concept of some people feeling like the whole world needs to know what they identify as etc.... I think it would be a lot better if all those folks just handled the situation assuming others don't care... Its like they're trying to get some sort of acceptance out of people where really the only acceptance they should care about is their own. I understand the argument that "well the point is to raise awareness that this is a reality" to tone down the discrimination or whatever but I mean the world will always be full of some rude dudes... I don't think all this "awareness" will do anything about that but instead teach the people fighting for "equality" that they need some sort of acceptance from someone else to "win" which is completely false.

Because sometimes it's easier for people to accept themselves after they come out to others as they find it easier to come to terms with...also the awareness is not just to try and get rid of homophobia, it's to possibly help others come out if they are struggling with themselves (ex. there are dozens of videos of people coming out because Tyler Oakley, a dominant figure in the LGBT community, is an inspiration for them).

Also we are still in a point in time where being gay is still not just something a majority of people will say "ok" to. Even today if someone asks if you're gay, even if you casually answer with "yes" people still ask questions like, "When did you come out?" "How did you know?" "What was it like?" etc. etc. It's not just something you say in the middle of a conversation and everyone else says "ok" and then the conversation continues on.

When people are born they are considered to be straight unless they say otherwise. It's an unfortunate truth but it's the reality we live in, and that's why people are compelled to come out.

Plenty of people accept themselves but who doesn't want acceptance from society? From their parents? From their friends? Anyone who says they don't care about that is BSing themselves because one of human's natural desires is to be in the majority and to be accepted. That's why people are compelled to come out on public sites like Facebook and Twitter and etc., because it's not just something that you say to yourself and then suddenly everyone you know understands.  

Posted by Thallen

What inequality are transgenders currently experiencing?

Legally speaking I don't know. Socially speaking the one thing I can recall is how the muder rate of transgender people is disproportionately high. I think that's related to the social acceptance thing that CM wrote about.

Anecdotally I've often seen trans people being mistaken for feminists with little evidence. That's more funny than bad though.  

Posted by Thallen

That's what feminism says too, except they only want the good things. They don't want to enlist in the military draft, work jobs with high risk of death, etc.

What inequality are transgenders currently experiencing?

Well for one, there's the bathroom issue.
A lot of businesses won't hire people for being transgender.
The trans-ban in the military (which is being lifted so that doesn't really count)
Plenty of people are disowned for being transgender.
And lots more that I can't list rn because I'm at a party for the 1 year anniversary for Marriage Equality.  

Can't you just not be transgender?  

Posted by MikvaGraal

Can't you just not be transgender?

Funny.
Can't you just not be cis, or straight, or a human for that matter? No? Okay.  

Posted by Mangsi

Funny.
Can't you just not be cis, or straight, or a human for that matter? No? Okay.

DNA.
Why are you even replying to this guy's posts?  

Posted by Mangsi

Funny.
Can't you just not be cis, or straight, or a human for that matter? No? Okay.

I rather be normal thank you very much XD  

Posted by 5hift

DNA.
Why are you even replying to this guy's posts?

I SUCK AT TROLL DETECTION OKAY  

Posted by Mangsi

I SUCK AT TROLL DETECTION OKAY

your gender is troll  

Important to remember that what you guys see on "cringe" threads or subreddits is in fact the minority and that feminism as a cause is filled with a broad range of varying opinions. Kind of disgusting that the assumption is made that the majority of feminists want to attack you.

That being said, activism isn't supposed to be comfortable. If it were, we wouldn't move forward.  

Posted by Imprint

Important to remember that what you guys see on "cringe" threads or subreddits is in fact the minority and that feminism as a cause is filled with a broad range of varying opinions. Kind of disgusting that the assumption is made that the majority of feminists want to attack you.

That being said, activism isn't supposed to be comfortable. If it were, we wouldn't move forward.

To be fair, feminism by definition is meant to make the world more comfortable for all people.

Hence: EQUALITY

So why, why the hell are actual "feminists" exalting the idea that everyone who doesn't agree with their viewpoints are automatically inferior?

Why don't real feminists deplore these kinds of people for warping the meaning of feminism?  

Posted by 5hift

To be fair, feminism by definition is meant to make the world more comfortable for all people.

Hence: EQUALITY

So why, why the hell are actual "feminists" exalting the idea that everyone who doesn't agree with their viewpoints are automatically inferior?

Were is the EQUALITY?

What he's trying to say is there are feminists who are for equality. The ones who believe their gender is superior are the minority.  

Well obviously we aren't talking about those folks.

They're pretty chill.

The ones who go outta their way to go full fem-nazi on all of us are the epitome of cringe.  

Posted by 5hift

Well obviously we aren't talking about those folks.

They're pretty chill.

The ones who go outta their way to go full fem-nazi on all of us are the epitome of cringe.

But that's what he was talking about lol. Did you read his post?  

We weren't making any generalizations that ALL feminists are these cis-hating degenerates.