Posted by 4-Lom

Some take more hits or are harder to kill in general.
This is not appearing to be reflected in points.

The values are literally the same. The numbers were just shrinked so they don't stand out in comparison to other leaderboards. Harder baddies will earn you relatively the same amount of points as it did before.  

Posted by Yog

Harder baddies will earn you relatively the same amount of points as it did before.

Therein lies the problem I was mentioning, sir.  

Posted by 4-Lom

Therein lies the problem I was mentioning, sir.

What's the problem? You get more points for harder baddies and less for easier ones.  

Posted by Vendetta

What's the problem? You get more points for harder baddies and less for easier ones.

that's not very true, for example bats (3 hits, decent spawn, almost no people) give much more than bandits (6 hits, good spawn, lots of people)  

Posted by 4-Lom

Therein lies the problem I was mentioning, sir.

If your problem is how points are assorted per baddy then why are you complaining about this update?  

Posted by Yog

If your problem is how points are assorted per baddy then why are you complaining about this update?

Cuz it hasn't changed since last time I complained when the leaderboard was rolled out in general?

I could go find the post, but you didn't seem to care about that either... so yeah.  

Posted by 4-Lom

Cuz it hasn't changed since last time I complained when the leaderboard was rolled out in general?

I could go find the post, but you didn't seem to care about that either... so yeah.

But you're complaining about something that has nothing to do with this change. It's irrelevant.  

Posted by Yog

But you're complaining about something that has nothing to do with this change. It's irrelevant.

a legit complaint is irrelevant because it's not regarding this specific change?
he mentioned how there's an issue with BKing that this change hasn't addressed, what's the problem with it?  

Posted by wanderer

a legit complaint is irrelevant because it's not regarding this specific change?
he mentioned how there's an issue with BKing that this change hasn't addressed, what's the problem with it?

Because this thread is addressing the most recent change to baddy points, and yet he's the only one in here complaining about specific values. His first post didn't even explain this. It implies he didn't like this change in particular. http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...08&postcount=9  

This... may be helpful here.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

The issue remains, so far as I understand, that the 'new' points system (scrunchified) did not address the complete scope of issues with the old one (unscrunchified) in that fighting crabs/spiders is by far the most valuable method of gaining bk points, while fighting more challenging monsters, such as lizardons, black blobs, or snakes remains ineffective.

It might make the pk community feel better because the points are scrunchified, though...

Posted by Yog

It implies he didn't like this change in particular. http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...08&postcount=9

For those of you too lazy to click the link, my post in no way mentions the current change (scrunchified points), but addresses the individual monster point values.  

Posted by 4-Lom

This... may be helpful here.
The issue remains, so far as I understand, that the 'new' points system (scrunchified) did not address the complete scope of issues with the old one (unscrunchified) in that fighting crabs/spiders is by far the most valuable method of gaining bk points, while fighting more challenging monsters, such as lizardons, black blobs, or snakes remains ineffective.

Right. What we are trying to explain is that shrinking the size of points awarded wasn't meant to balance how points are awarded because it's literally all the same relatively.  

Did they changed it? Went from 700 to 1888 points.  

not sure if values of specific baddies are changed, but if it used to be 1 point equals 70 old points, it's about 1:25-30 right now  

Posted by wanderer

not sure if values of specific baddies are changed, but if it used to be 1 point equals 70 old points, it's about 1:25-30 right now

It's 1:20 now.  

Posted by fp4

It's 1:20 now.

okay thanks, looks much better now when you're comparing it to the other leadboards