Graal Forums Free to everyone - 3

Crono · 08-25-2014

Posted by Skill

No more observer mode on UN, I'd consider PC graal free now lol. They did a "free for the holidays" thing, and forgot to turn the event off for months and still haven't LOL

Free as in...free from Darlene.

GOAT · 08-25-2014

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if any igraalers want to see crono vs big mamma darlene
v----
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4269457&page=4

Phantos · 08-27-2014

Ah, you guys are pretty angry about her, huh? She really never bothered me, but then again I never really put much effort into the "official" Graal forums. I think its biggest hindrance was the paywall they put up, which prevented a healthy community from growing.

You can point out times where conversations got squished because of overzealous moderation, but I think 9 out of 10 of those instances were being people rude or indecent to the topic at hand. I can't hate on Darlene, but I respect why some of you might!

I think that, once they get upgraded, there may be some potential for those forums being every bit as useful to Graalians everywhere as this forum is now.

Dusty · 08-27-2014

I remember one time someone posted about doing a challenge of some sorts and drinking a ton of water, so I linked to a website about water toxicity and the dangers and the post was deleted and I was warned.

The biggest problem with the forums was not purely Darlene, but the fact that it was ONLY Darlene. The forums used to have multiple admins/head moderators, and it was sort of balanced as they all had different ideas on how to interpret the rules and run the forums. However, eventually all the other moderators started disappearing... all that was left was Darlene. Suddenly there was no one else to go to when you felt Darlene messed up. Everything was up to her discretion and she knew it. Her excuse was always, "if you don't like it, you can contact Unixmad." And I did, and I'm sure many others did... and guess what, Unixmad was NEVER THERE. So eventually it got to the point where she enforced rules however she wanted and there was no way to appeal. The only way to appeal was to PM her... and well, she would never back down and say she was wrong. So if felt that you got an unfair strike/deleted post, well tough ****.

The breaking point for me was when someone posted that video of the two girls a while ago on Youtube who talked about the dangers of child predators on Graal or something(it was a while ago and I can't find the video). It created a very healthy discussion on the topic on these forums, and Stefan himself saw the video and came on RC and talked about how important it was to crack down on that sort of thing. Ya, Stefan thought the video brought up a lot of good points. However when it was posted on the Official forums Darlene deleted the threads and said the topic was not to be discussed again, as it was inappropriate.

James205 · 08-27-2014

Posted by Phantos

I never really put much effort into the "official" Graal forums.

ok.

Posted by Phantos

I think its biggest hindrance was the paywall they put up, which prevented a healthy community from growing.

This is not true, the official forums used to be incredibly active even with a pay wall. The forum infact had healthy growth then Darlene became moderator and activity declined majorly (you can also blame lack of updates to graal PC as well).

Posted by Phantos

I think 9 out of 10 of those instances were being people rude or indecent to the topic at hand.

This is just false. Absurdly false

Posted by Phantos

I think that, once they get upgraded, there may be some potential for those forums being every bit as useful to Graalians everywhere as this forum is now.

As long as they don't allow people to converse that forum is going no where. Their moderation team (Darlene) needs to retire and move on. The fact she still moderates the forum like she does is ridiculous and sometimes people need to know when it's their time to go.

Thallen · 08-27-2014

there's no reason to use the official forums

not to mention, the Graal website's security and the coding behind that forum is garbage
whoever coded the whole intra-account linking system where your Graal account/password is supposed to sync with your forum account password did a terrible job, I can't even log in anymore and there is no forgotten password feature

only reason I wanted to log in was to tell them their forum sucked anyway

Eroz · 08-27-2014

Posted by Thallen

there's no reason to use the official forums

not to mention, the Graal website's security and the coding behind that forum is garbage
whoever coded the whole intra-account linking system where your Graal account/password is supposed to sync with your forum account password did a terrible job, I can't even log in anymore and there is no forgotten password feature

only reason I wanted to log in was to tell them their forum sucked anyway

^^^

Cookie Xanadu · 08-27-2014

Posted by Dusty

Stefan himself saw the video and came on RC and talked about how important it was to crack down on that sort of thing. Ya, Stefan thought the video brought up a lot of good points. inappropriate.

This makes me happy

Fysez · 08-29-2014

Along with many others, I agree against Darlene. I'd been banned from the forums there for in-game-actions that had nothing to do with the forum. And no, I'm not talking "stalking" or "sexual harassment." Just banned for stupid reasoning.

Posted by Crono

Free as in...free from Darlene.

Had to quote this!

Thallen · 10-13-2014

Who are the other administrators/global moderators of that forum?

I sat through my 6 years of being banned for a trivial reason and I'm unbanned now (thanks Xor), so I'm looking for someone to lift that.

Crono · 10-13-2014

TSAdmin might be able to help you.

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GOAT Hyrule Knights Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In your head 24/7 Posts: 6,348	(deleted) if any igraalers want to see crono vs big mamma darlene v---- http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4269457&page=4 Last edited by GOAT; 08-25-2014 at 10:44 PM. Reason: :''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''(

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	I remember one time someone posted about doing a challenge of some sorts and drinking a ton of water, so I linked to a website about water toxicity and the dangers and the post was deleted and I was warned. The biggest problem with the forums was not purely Darlene, but the fact that it was ONLY Darlene. The forums used to have multiple admins/head moderators, and it was sort of balanced as they all had different ideas on how to interpret the rules and run the forums. However, eventually all the other moderators started disappearing... all that was left was Darlene. Suddenly there was no one else to go to when you felt Darlene messed up. Everything was up to her discretion and she knew it. Her excuse was always, "if you don't like it, you can contact Unixmad." And I did, and I'm sure many others did... and guess what, Unixmad was NEVER THERE. So eventually it got to the point where she enforced rules however she wanted and there was no way to appeal. The only way to appeal was to PM her... and well, she would never back down and say she was wrong. So if felt that you got an unfair strike/deleted post, well tough ***. The breaking point for me was when someone posted that video of the two girls a while ago on Youtube who talked about the dangers of child predators on Graal or something(it was a while ago and I can't find the video). It created a very* healthy discussion on the topic on these forums, and Stefan himself saw the video and came on RC and talked about how important it was to crack down on that sort of thing. Ya, Stefan thought the video brought up a lot of good points. However when it was posted on the Official forums Darlene deleted the threads and said the topic was not to be discussed again, as it was inappropriate. Last edited by Dusty; 08-27-2014 at 03:06 AM.

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Phantos Bushwhacked Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Southern California. Posts: 440	Ah, you guys are pretty angry about her, huh? She really never bothered me, but then again I never really put much effort into the "official" Graal forums. I think its biggest hindrance was the paywall they put up, which prevented a healthy community from growing. You can point out times where conversations got squished because of overzealous moderation, but I think 9 out of 10 of those instances were being people rude or indecent to the topic at hand. I can't hate on Darlene, but I respect why some of you might! I think that, once they get upgraded, there may be some potential for those forums being every bit as useful to Graalians everywhere as this forum is now.

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	there's no reason to use the official forums not to mention, the Graal website's security and the coding behind that forum is garbage whoever coded the whole intra-account linking system where your Graal account/password is supposed to sync with your forum account password did a terrible job, I can't even log in anymore and there is no forgotten password feature only reason I wanted to log in was to tell them their forum sucked anyway

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	Who are the other administrators/global moderators of that forum? I sat through my 6 years of being banned for a trivial reason and I'm unbanned now (thanks Xor), so I'm looking for someone to lift that.

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Crono :pluffy: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,946	TSAdmin might be able to help you.