nope.

Posted by Reece

Agnosticism pretty much means you're open minded, that you're not disregarding the idea that there is a god but not actively believing it either.



Part of the idea of religion is that we as people are not supposed to understand and process concepts such as this. God is regarded as an omniscient, omnipresent being, he's everywhere at once, and is all knowing. We can't understand some of the things that is written, but we have to accept it.

agnostic means that u think there is no proof of god and him existing since it is based on a book that someone wrote,which people believe in somehow.there may be a god,but most agnostic people dont know if god is real or not,since we cant time travel YET.  

Dawn, Reece was right here is the definition:

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.  

Posted by Colin

Dawn, Reece was right here is the definition:

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

u googled it :9 u should of taken a screenshot  

Doesn't matter-what matters is whether or not you want to become a Christian.
nothing to lose man, only gain.  

Posted by Platinum

The trinity is God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit;
God is the Creator, Christ is his son (whom he sent down to earth and paid for our sins), and the Holy Spirit is what Christ left behind so he is still with us.

I'm agnostic, but as I've been to an Anglican school my whole life I suppose you could call me a Christian. Jesus preached about loving god and loving your neighbour. One of his most famous stories is the Good Samaritan, which explains the basis of Christianity.

I'd be happy to teach you more if you're interested.

That's the thing. Jesus never once claimed divinity or said to worship him. The basic concept of the trinity is not even in the bible. "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father,*for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28. How can Jesus be god if he himself says there is someone who is greater.  

in other to prevent the thread from going in all directions, just post what you feel is the answer to the question in OP and let psymons get his own conclusion of what everybody says.  

Posted by Colin

Since we've got a religious thread here, any other Buddhists?

Dude you picked the wrong place to ask because people are expecting other Christians.  

Posted by Kay9

That's the thing. Jesus never once claimed divinity or said to worship him. The basic concept of the trinity is not even in the bible. "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father,*for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28. How can Jesus be god if he himself says there is someone who is greater.

"though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:6-11)  

Posted by Tyler

God is one. He is the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Three characteristics, but still one God. A glorious mystery. An example would be an egg shell, the egg white, and the egg yoke is just one egg, but has three different characteristics. God created man, but man rebelled against God in the Garden of Eden. God had a plan to redeem man. God came to Earth as Jesus (part of the holy trinity: the father, son, and the holy spirit). Jesus was born of a ****** and lived a sinless life. He was crucified on a cross in payment for man's sin.

On the third day after his death he raised from the dead and conquered sin and death. There is nothing that man can do on his own works to save himself. He needed God to take punishment for his own sins. In order to be saved you have to freely accept Jesus' gift of salvation. Once someone has been saved, they have truly accepted Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, they will follow Jesus out of love and appreciation for him. An example from the Bible, "For by GRACE you have been saved through FAITH and not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, NOT as a result of works that no one should boast" (Ephesians 2:8,9). Another example from the Bible Jesus says, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except by me" (John 14:6). A third example from the Bible is, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

The next step after being saved is to find a Bible believing church that believes in God as the trinity (the father, son, and holy spirit) and believes that salvation is from grace through faith and not of works. You can't earn your way to heaven. God did it for you once and for all. God offers a gift, but God does not force his gift on anyone because man is given free will. A true Christian is grateful that they have been saved and they want to obey God's commandments out of love and gratefulness.

I hope this helps!

Thank you, not totally what I was looking for-- should've clarified that I was brought up in Church so I understand all the details, but don't know what I should be getting out of it.

• Why does God want people to follow and worship him?
• What is the point of being saintly if Jesus forgives?
• How can I live a more Christ following life?
• How does obeying the Bible-- stuff like the 10 commandments tie in to following Christ?
• Personal Testimonies for why you believe?

Posted by Hadi

Seriously, what are you trying to say?
Religion definitely has a lot of science involved.

There is very little "science" behind religion. And in my opinion thats how it should be. If there was an explanation for everything in any Holy Text then there would be no point of it-- since in theory it could be recreated by man. Religion should be something based solely on Faith. If I believed everything in the Bible could be explained through science then I wouldn't be interested in putting my faith in a Higher being since I could technically have the same level of understanding.

Posted by Kay9

That's the thing. Jesus never once claimed divinity or said to worship him. The basic concept of the trinity is not even in the bible. "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father,*for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28. How can Jesus be god if he himself says there is someone who is greater.

From what I was taught in Church, he is the only "human" religious figure to have been characterized as God?


And guys please stay on topic. I don't want this to turn into a discussion on the difference between Catholicism and Christianity.

Posted by Vivid*

Dude,I've been waiting for a thread like this for a very, very long time.
Let me get started, sorry, I, Myself am A Christian (Hence Christ-ian)
Jesus, As said in the Holy trinity is "Father son Holy Spirit" meaning they are "one" that really sounds weird, and A pastor of mine said It is one of the hardest things to understand, But, Jesus, I'm sure you know the whole story, died On a cross for our sins, because he was perfect (meaning followed all Ten Commandments. Jesus, if you accept him as your savior, you are saved, to do this do the ABC's of Christ. (Please Click the Link I have Found)
Now, The Bible. (I Read, A simple Holy Bible) States, No matter what sin, As long as you believe in Jesus, you are saved. The bible is basically your message from God, read it for help, Pray also. However, the one sin that cannot be forgiven is stating you are not a Christian, when you are (why the Jews in the holocaust could not simply say they were not, and, Turning away from God (Example: says God I don't Want you in my life anymore, like that (Idk why you would say that, just saying) Anyway, people also, get confused thinking believing in God gets you to heaven, remember, JESUS is the one to believe, Remember, God is real, And God is Jesus (his son) but the way to Heaven is through him.
Good Luck Mr.Simons, If you wish to become a Christian P.M. Me anytime, It would be an honor to help. :3



The "Creation of world made by God" as stated in Sir. Vivid III Facts of Life Book ^.^
Try to watch the new(ish) Movie Called "God's Not Dead" A movie about a college Professor Who is atheist And Wants a Young Christian Student To write "Gods Dead" On a piece of paper, but he refuses. The student then must make arguments and debates in from of the 80 student class of wether or not God Exists, as a Christian, the student uses Gods help to do this, and Uses Quotes and Parts of old peoples sayings to civilly fight the Professor. he finally gets the professor to say "Yes,YES I HATE GOD" then Then the boy states, "How can you hate someone that doesn't exist"? Then he gets into a story about how his Mom dies when he was little....In the end the Proffesor accepts God. (I'm not going to fill in the details, I missed a lot, just so You can enjoy the movie if you choose ;)

Now, sorry I forgot, to say, But The difference between Catholics and Christians is, Catholics have a lot more rules ( some Good, don't get me wrong) but, Catholics, believe in God, But they don't believe in Jesus, There are MANY, different religions, but Christian seems to be the most popular and known in America (We have missionaries at your local church who go to other countries to try and save others)
Now, if you've read all this, You know about what it is to be a Christian. Good Luck. God is Good.

Sorry that you typed all that out and I wasn't clear enough with my religious affiliation. Thank you though (:

Posted by Colin

Since we've got a religious thread here, any other Buddhists?

not a religious thread, all I am asking is for someone to explain a little more about the teachings of Jesus, and how it connects to the Old Testament of The Bible, as well as for personal testimonies for why someone follows Christ and believes others should. Please keep other religions out of this, as well as science. Not interested.  

The thing you just said about why be saintly if he just forgives is a very good point. You might as well have fun and seek forgiveness later on.  

Please stay on topic, and respect the question at hand. Other beliefs and faiths are great-- and if you'd like to maturely discuss them, feel free to begin another thread.  

Posted by Dawn

agnostic means that u think there is no proof of god and him existing since it is based on a book that someone wrote,which people believe in somehow.there may be a god,but most agnostic people dont know if god is real or not,since we cant time travel YET.

Incorrect definition actually :0

Posted by Google

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

So its actually just someone who doesn't believe that it can't be proved/disproved that there is a God, so therefore doesn't decide on it. In which case I am not agnostic. I did a little bit of googling and I believe the term is "Deist", someone who believes in a higher power but is not a follower of any religion.  

Isn't there a definition where you don't believe of God but you can't really disprove of one?

http://www.era-go.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12483&d=1408403691 (Unsupported image host)  

Posted by CluTch

Isn't there a definition where you don't believe of God but you can't really disprove of one?

Agnostic-Atheism. Believing in a religious God however not being 100% sure on it would be Agnostic-Theism, the difference between that and Deism is religious belief.  

It's an agnostic atheist.

I definitely see it now. Okay, anyways. Simon you should try to take most time to look into Catholicism. It's worth while. If you don't have the time, read like, one chapter of the bible each day. It's not really hard.