Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Im sick and tired of this bullshiit that happens in graal with weapons. Everyone is too damn scared of change. The bar was nerfed once people still used it alot. It had a higher freeze so what? It still dominated in bases it just made it harder to use.

You bar and pbp owners are too fking scared that you wont dominate anymore. Nerf the OP guns. Fk snk fk stefan and unixmad. Screw them and **********ing off to money. Its for the best of era and you know it is. Old timers will come back to graal because it will be fun. All the nubs who are dumbasses and wont switch weapons will cry about it and leave. People will still buy ****loads of itunes just to get auction items and other guns. The gap MUST be closed up. At least so you can stand a chance against a BAR with a 7 damage gun. Pbp needs to go back to low rof low freeze and no stacked damage. They were better that way anyways. Meph wa hired to FIX the gun balancing crisis. To fix it bar and pbp are a major part in it. Mephs job will NEVER be done until he fixs the BAR and pbp

Also this price = higher quality = BULLSHIIT

Example.
A barreta 50caliber = about 10,000$ on the current market
A m4 = 800$
Sure the barreta hits much much much harder than a m4 but a m4 is a better weapon since its automatic, reliable, low recoil, easy to use, and larger clip size.

You're wrong. The 50cal is a heavy sniping rifle. You couldn't use an m4 as an equal or better sniper! It depends on the damn use, not whether you're equipped with the best weapon for close combat. The 50cal still packs a stronger impact, which makes it supreme. You can't attack a base if you've been taken out a mile and a half before arriving.

Price=Quality is simply old and rooted. Maybe removing it suddenly will create a vortex of bigger problems.  

No im not saying as a sniper. Hell no lmao barreta beats m4 in that. Im talking about a real combat situation. I would trust w automatic rifle over a bigass, heavy, hard to aim gun.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No im not saying as a sniper. Hell no lmao barreta beats m4 in that. Im talking about a real combat situation. I would trust w automatic rifle over a bigass, heavy, hard to aim gun.

Well, anyway, I own a Pbp and don't use it all the time. My Thompson is a bar killer. The game is already being balanced. I suggest just letting Meph continue with his work.  

i dont really give a damn because you guys have nerfed every other gun  

I don't give a damn because I just content with what I have  

no thank you

Posted by Shock

You're wrong. The 50cal is a heavy sniping rifle. You couldn't use an m4 as an equal or better sniper! It depends on the damn use, not whether you're equipped with the best weapon for close combat. The 50cal still packs a stronger impact, which makes it supreme. You can't attack a base if you've been taken out a mile and a half before arriving.

Price=Quality is simply old and rooted. Maybe removing it suddenly will create a vortex of bigger problems.

yes agreed it will create more problems but at the same time i see what u mean it will be more fair for newer players i personally dont think its a good idea to change anything around with the guns mabe make players with under 5 hours life bigger just a suggestion  

No.  

Now generally, people dislike the idea of pay2win. To the point though, I'm happy that it's at least possible to win with any weapon (excluding 1 clip artillery weapons) despite low tier vs high tier is not a balanced match up. Interestingly, new players may get the idea that you can beat any gun using a BAR so they buy the BAR from the start. Honestly, BAR can be easy if the player doesn't spar very well.

There used to be this one gun that seemed like a GOD weapon. That was the Shipka before Cloyd's nerf. A freeze rate of a handgun,(current one) a rate of fire of an m4, the damage of an m4, the ability to shoot 2 bullets at once, an arguably huge clip size, a fast reload, and is roughly half priced of a BAR. That weapon I was glad it was nerfed. Whether I had a Shipka or not. Everyone would buy a Shipka so that you become nearly unbeatable. The issue here was that Shipka practically gives the enemy at the top area in spar no chance. The highly unbalanced and spammy Shipka was the destruction of skill in Era. BAR was also OP, but Shipka took much less skill to use. That has been resolved now. Shipka eventually got nerfed.

Is era's guns balanced? Not really. Is it possible to beat BAR with Starter Guns? Yes, it will take all the courage and concentration you can get but be prepared for a long match if your enemy knows what he is doing. If you know how to counter rushers, then best of luck into beating the BAR. Be glad that you know have a speed boost that can help turn the tides of battle.

Posted by Shock

Well, anyway, I own a Pbp and don't use it all the time. My Thompson is a bar killer. The game is already being balanced. I suggest just letting Meph continue with his work.

 

Face it, the OP gun is the reason most people who don't have it even try to make money anymore. If everything was equal, the use of certain features of the game would become futile and irrelevant, so believe it or not, the OP guns actually benefit era as an economy.  

Those high priced guns are balanced. Souizen isn't even good enough for a nerf,I mean it's decent,but not OP,and if you think Shipka is op you got problems. The only gun that is OP is PBP.I don't get why on this game people always complain about OP weapons,try Era PC,people have guns 10x your gun's speed when you first start,yet no one complains.

Besides it's not only era,every other game,if you're able to earn ****,you get better ****... I spend so long digging and now the really good weapons are on the urge of being nerfed,that's bull.. I think the game is fairly balanced as is,considering I have all shop weapons and I only use sten yet I don't get owned by a PBP/BAR/Souizen/Shipka to the point where I think they're unbalanced,as for gralat packs,I think those should gtfo so people work for their stuff,but Stefan and all... If there was no gralat packs there would be very few really good guns roaming around.  

Sorry but i'm against. All the people who spent itunes (not talking for me as i never bought packs) are going to be frustrated etc.  

I think the guns are pretty expensive on the whole, but most Iphone games are like that, they all have expensive items they'll take you days of farming to get or weeks / months.

Increasing HP would make it much better to compete with the higher damage guns, being able to take more hits than dying in 6.
Bases are pretty small so it's hard to even compete with high damage guns, but why not use grenades, tactical shields and actually work as a team to get past?  

Posted by SnakeRekon

I think the guns are pretty expensive on the whole, but most Iphone games are like that, they all have expensive items they'll take you days of farming to get or weeks / months.

Increasing HP would make it much better to compete with the higher damage guns, being able to take more hits than dying in 6.
Bases are pretty small so it's hard to even compete with high damage guns, but why not use grenades, tactical shields and actually work as a team to get past?

5 hits ;p.
And most bases have shallow passages where you can spam a bar or shipka in, and when using a tactical shield it's still no use since you're still dead within 5 seconds, literally..  

i vote nerf the PBP. Bar needs a freeze nerf and everyone for some reason is scared of a freeze nerf i dunno why. BAR would still domininate in close quarters, it would just make it harder for the BAR to be more mobile.

Anyways IMO whats best for the game overrides players opinion.

A HP increase to 100 would help a bunch to balance out the game, a BAR would be 18 damage, this way it would STILL be the most dominate gun, but weapons that are 8 damage would be increased to 15 damage. BAR still will deal the most damage but it would be taken down from its current 5 shot 1 kill to a 6 shot one hit kill and the gap would be closed big time, also the best part about this system is that it will still feel like the current HP system of all guns take at least 6 hits. The two guns that would be the 5 hit kill would be tardus and neo rifle both at 20-22 damage.

Thoughts?

Posted by SnakeRekon

Bases are pretty small so it's hard to even compete with high damage guns, but why not use grenades, tactical shields and actually work as a team to get past?

Ha the shield is the equivelent to a cardboard shield, it does nothing  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Face it, the OP gun is the reason most people who don't have it even try to make money anymore. If everything was equal, the use of certain features of the game would become futile and irrelevant, so believe it or not, the OP guns actually benefit era as an economy.

...But not for all the players. Obviously, it's impossible to please everyone. The majority of Era don't own these guns. Era is supposed to be fun, right now, it's not.