Bernie was independent, but switched to Democratic for the election.  

And he still lost.  

Posted by iMac

To be honest, I am kind of hoping something crazy to happen. Something like Bernie running as an independent party. It would be like Theodore Roosevelt who ran in the Progressive Bull Moose party.

heres something crazy that will happen. Trump will win in a landslide and Clinton will commit suicide because she cant handle Trumps bantz  

Cant wait until trump gets blown out in the GE and exposes what a large portion of the Republican base really is: xenophobic and acting on basic emotional urges and fear. "Silent majority" my ass. It's just a dying scream from the same group of people who put the Japanese in interment camps and forced out the native Americans. Extreme nationalistic urges are not the answers to our problems. Kind of depressing that 25%% of people on here support him, although after looking at some of the user names it seems like most of the supporters for him here are the 4chan troll types that probably browse the butt pimples of the internet like /pol/ all day and think theyre funnier than they are.

Just to go all out: I legetimatley hate people who support "policies" like temporarily banning all Muslims and view them as no different than the people who supported segregation in the 50's. It's such a shame you still exist. Y'all are slowly dying off though, as this election will show. Which is great.  

Ah the left. They preach tolerance for everyone but those who disagree with them, and then ad hominem their way through the reasons.  

Posted by Fulgore

Ah the left. They preach tolerance for everyone but those who disagree with them, and then ad hominem their way through the reasons.

No, I disagree but still respect views that aren't xenophobic and bigoted. I respect the views of Bush or Romney supporters and agree to disagree. Because they aren't actively hurting other groups of people and don't spread hate like saying that Muslims or Mexicans are the problem. I don't respect the views of people who support the more extreme policies trump has. There's a difference.

Do you know how hard it is to enter the US? It can take years. And longer to gain citizenship. I can understand why people come illegally. Deporting 12 million people l, tearing apart their families, and building a wall isn't the answer. And then temporarily banning Muslims from the US. There isn't an inherent problem with being Muslim, and if you think there is you're insane. Flat taxes or abortion issues i can agree to disagree with. Beliefs like that are ones i cant as a human being who has empathy.

Edit: After reading the OP apparently this thread is just for the election itself and not for stuff like this so I'll stop lol  

Scenario -- after losing the democratic nomination Bernie Sanders runs as independent. John Kasich aligns himself with the libertarian party and runs as the conservative solution to Trump. Trump and Clinton maintain sizable leads but each fail to accumulate half of the electoral college. The vote for president goes to the Republican controlled House who elects Kasich.

Thoughts?  

Posted by MattKan

Scenario -- after losing the democratic nomination Bernie Sanders runs as independent. John Kasich aligns himself with the libertarian party and runs as the conservative solution to Trump. Trump and Clinton maintain sizable leads but each fail to accumulate half of the electoral college. The vote for president goes to the Republican controlled House who elects Kasich.

Thoughts?

Between Trump, Kasich, Hillary, Bernie; Kasich is by far #4 imo. So I really dont think he has any chance. But if Bernie does go independent, yes, I do think it'll be difficult for any of the 3 to get a majority.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Do you know how hard it is to enter the US? It can take years. And longer to gain citizenship. I can understand why people come illegally. Deporting 12 million people l, tearing apart their families, and building a wall isn't the answer. And then temporarily banning Muslims from the US. There isn't an inherent problem with being mualim, and if you think there is you're insane. Flat taxes or abortion issues i can agree to disagree with. Beliefs like that are ones i cant as a human being who has empathy.

Even those native to where our wars are fought help the army with translation, yet are denied citizenship, to then have to fear for their life because they decided to help out the States.

tbh I don't see Trump winning considering he's ostracized too many parties.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

No, I disagree but still respect views that aren't xenophobic and bigoted. I respect the views of Bush or Romney supporters and agree to disagree. Because they aren't actively hurting other groups of people and don't spread hate like saying that Muslims or Mexicans are the problem. I don't respect the views of people who support the more extreme policies trump has. There's a difference.
Do you know how hard it is to enter the US? It can take years. And longer to gain citizenship. I can understand why people come illegally. Deporting 12 million people l, tearing apart their families, and building a wall isn't the answer. And then temporarily banning Muslims from the US. There isn't an inherent problem with being Muslim, and if you think there is you're insane. Flat taxes or abortion issues i can agree to disagree with. Beliefs like that are ones i cant as a human being who has empathy.
Edit: After reading the OP apparently this thread is just for the election itself and not for stuff like this so I'll stop lol

100% agree with the Muslim thing, although, if I expanded on it, you would probably 100% disagree with me. I think there should be a temporary ban on any immigrants from specific countries or regions. You can't judge whether someone's really a Muslim or not, and even if you could, they aren't Muslim; it's just their excuse. I think the Middle-East is the problem area, not the religion of the person. As for deporting illegal immigrants, honestly, there's no good solution. People just criticize Trump's statement to send them back, but no one else comes up with a valid solution themselves. It's the politicians' fault for letting the issue get this out-of-hand. Supporting the idea of sending illegal immigrants back is hardly racist, like many people believe. They are in the country illegally, and that has to be addressed in some form. If we let them all become citizens, then we create a precedent that illegal immigrants will all eventually become citizens, which would encourage people to enter the country illegally even more. Something needs to be done to address the issue of current illegal immigrants - whatever that may be - and something needs to be done to address the issue of how people are getting in illegally. How hard it is to get in the U.S. plays no part in this issue. That's a separate issue. We have rules for a reason, and if someone believes that the rules should be changed, then that's a separate issue, but we still have to deal with the current problem with illegal immigrants, and border patrol. It's not hateful to believe illegal immigrants should be sent back; in fact, it's logical. We have rules in place, and they need to be followed, and with any rule, something needs to be in place to deal with those who break them. I don't actually support sending them all back, but I don't oppose it either. I think this possible solution is as absurd as all the others, like those that want to make them all citizens, or to legalize them, but not let them be citizens. Either way, no solution to that problem matters until there is a solution to prevent mass amounts of illegal immigration from happening again.

Side note for the Muslim immigration ban idea. Honestly, PC exists because of society creating it. While I disagree on the idea of temporarily banning Muslims, I do agree with the intention behind it. I just think it should apply to everyone from certain, at-risk areas, not just Muslims. People disagree with limiting anyone from entering the country, and some people want America to take in thousands of refugees, yet they also want to be assured that America is safe from terrorism. And when a tragedy hits from ISIS-involved refugees, they blame the government for not keeping them safe. The government is supposed to make the hard decisions that aren't always fair, but are in the best interests of its country. It's naive to "want your cake, and eat it too."  

Posted by MattKan

Scenario -- after losing the democratic nomination Bernie Sanders runs as independent. John Kasich aligns himself with the libertarian party and runs as the conservative solution to Trump. Trump and Clinton maintain sizable leads but each fail to accumulate half of the electoral college. The vote for president goes to the Republican controlled House who elects Kasich.

Thoughts?

Yes please  

Posted by MattKan

Scenario -- after losing the democratic nomination Bernie Sanders runs as independent. John Kasich aligns himself with the libertarian party and runs as the conservative solution to Trump. Trump and Clinton maintain sizable leads but each fail to accumulate half of the electoral college. The vote for president goes to the Republican controlled House who elects Kasich.

Thoughts?

Sounds great, I love ****ing over the American people  

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Quite surprised by my results, if I'm being honest.  

Posted by Fulgore

Ah the left. They preach tolerance for everyone but those who disagree with them, and then ad hominem their way through the reasons.

Posted by Pimpsy G.

No, I disagree but still respect views that aren't xenophobic and bigoted. I respect the views of Bush or Romney supporters and agree to disagree. Because they aren't actively hurting other groups of people and don't spread hate like saying that Muslims or Mexicans are the problem. I don't respect the views of people who support the more extreme policies trump has. There's a difference.

Do you know how hard it is to enter the US? It can take years. And longer to gain citizenship. I can understand why people come illegally. Deporting 12 million people l, tearing apart their families, and building a wall isn't the answer. And then temporarily banning Muslims from the US. There isn't an inherent problem with being Muslim, and if you think there is you're insane. Flat taxes or abortion issues i can agree to disagree with. Beliefs like that are ones i cant as a human being who has empathy.

Edit: After reading the OP apparently this thread is just for the election itself and not for stuff like this so I'll stop lol

Don't stop. I enjoy clueless trump supporters being owned. Fulgy where you at? That was a pretty good stfu statement.

Liberals-2 Fulfy-0


hehe