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12-27-2013
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michael
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Hyrule
Posts: 3,511
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12-29-2013
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Registered Old Person
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Graal City Restaurant
Posts: 4,742
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There was issue with equipping two different mounts and switching between them... |
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12-29-2013
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Should be fixed.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,359
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12-31-2013
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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I've reported it 100 times, but there is still a glitch that exists that allows you to destabilize your spar rating deviation and reset it to 350, essentially allowing people to completely ruin the spar leaderboards. When you log on to the same account from 2 devices at the same time, it will reset your rating deviation, but not your rating. Basically, you can win a spar, reset it, win a spar, reset it, repeat, and this way get an outrageous amount of points and saturate the entire rating pool. People have been abusing it forever and sparring sucks enough as it is right now, so this could use fixing. I assume the glitch has to do with the fact that you have 2 different ratings (one per device type, PC and iDevice), if that helps you in fixing it. Maybe just timestamp when someone has last had 350, and if they have it again within 10-20 days then it's being abused. |
12-31-2013
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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![]() ![]() Second player in the second screenshot is not in the first screenshot because he used the glitch to reset his rating deviation to 350, then boosted repeatedly. You only appear on leaderboards when your rating deviation falls below 80. I have no interest in sparring while the server's lag is in the condition that it's in lately, but if anyone cares enough to try and force it to be fixed then I'd probably just suggest abusing the glitch over and over until the whole leaderboard and pool of rating is effectively ruined, because that's what's happening anyway. GL! |
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01-01-2014
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Reformed
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,812
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Lol, don't spar much anymore, but from what I see, it's almost as bad as Delteria's spar system. And that's pretty bad. But really, I honestly wonder if this issue will get any attention since Rufus is gone. Unless there's other staff members who care about spar and it's issues. Hats off to Thallen though, presenting the issue and explaining it without a single exclamation point. ![]() |
01-01-2014
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Should be fixed.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,359
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The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.
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01-01-2014
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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The spar points system seems to be almost a direct relationship with Graal's built-in spar rating system. The person who has the highest rating on the server will also have the higher points on the server (I believe). If you know how Graal rating itself works, the second number (in 1500/350) is the rating deviation. The higher it is, the less frequently it is that you spar, thus the more points you get from a spar. If you beat someone with 2100 rating when you have 1500/350, you'll skyrocket to 2250/280 (roughly, depending on many factors). As you spar more, your rating deviation continues to go down, to a minimum of 75, and you gain less rating per win. Basically, having a rating deviation that constantly resets to 350 is a destabilization of your rating. You get an insane amount for winning, because the game assumes that it is your first spar so it needs to immediately seed you at an appropriate rating. When you spar a lot, it falls to a minimum of 75 in assumption that it has corrected your rating and it's an accurate reflection of what you should have over a long period of sparring. Anyway, the glitch constantly resets your rating deviation to 350, but does not reset your actual rating (the first number). So, you win once, get 2300/280 for the win (just an example), then you use the glitch and you're at 2300/350. Then you just repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and get an insane rating, because you're a cheating douchebag who is bad at spar. The highest achievable spar rating on iClassic, to my knowledge, is 2999. However, points continue to go up beyond that. I dunno why it resets your rating to */350 when you log on two devices using the same account, but if I had to guess I'd say it has to do with the fact that iClassic assigns you 2 different ratings: one for mobile devices and one for PC. If it can't be fixed, I think it'd at least be worth it to ban and/or reset players who constantly abuse it. |
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